हाल अमेरिकामा रहेका नेपालीहरु बिभिन्न बर्गका छन्, शायद धेरै त विद्यार्थी नै होलान्, जसमध्ये पनि अधिकांशले त आफ्नै खर्चमा पढ्छन् र केही भने assistantship पाएर पढ्दै छन्। assistantship मा पढ्नेहरुलाई त खासै समस्या नहोला तर जो विद्यार्थीहरु आँफै खर्च जुटाएर पढि रहेका छन् तिनिहरुको जिबन प्राय: कस्टप्रद नै छ। नेपालबाट घरपरिवारले पैसा पठाउन सक्ने स्थिती प्राय:को हुँदैन अनी कानूनीरुपमा काम गर्ने अधिकार पनि उनिहरुसँग हुँदैन। त्यसपछिको एउटै मात्र उपाय भनेको गैरअमेरिकी ब्यबसायीहरुकोमा काम गर्न जानु अथवा घण्टा हान्न जानु। यस्ता घण्टा हान्न जाने ठाँउको साहुजिहरुमध्ये धेरै जसो भारतीयहरुनै हुन्छन्। तर अमेरिकामा केही नेपालीहरु पनि यस्ता छन् जस्ले gas store, restaurant, gift shop र grocery जस्ता ब्यबसायहरु चलाएर बसेका छन् र दुई चार जना नेपालीलाई काम दिने हैसियत राख्दछन्। काम खोज्दै भौतारीरहेका नेपाली विद्यार्थीलाई यस्ता नेपाली ब्यबसायी मिल्दा ढुङ्गा खोज्दा देउता मिले जस्तै अनुभव हुन्छ। आफ्नो नेपाली दाजुभाइ वा दिदीबहिनी भनेर एक किसिमको बनबटी माया देखाँउदै यि नेपाली ब्यबसायिहरुले काम त दिन्छन्, तर ती विद्यार्थीहरुको बाध्यताको फाईदा उठाउदै साह्रै कम पारीश्रमिक दिन्छन्, उनिहरुले दिएको पारीश्रमिक बजारमा चलनचल्तिको पारीश्रमिक भन्दा आधा मात्र हुन्छ, अझ कतिले त घण्टाको होइन महिनाको हिसाबले पैसा दिने भन्छन् अनी टन्न काम दलाउछन्। यस्तो महिनबारी तलब दिनेहरुले बिदा पनि राम्रोसँग दिदैनन्, तर पनि ती नेपाली विद्यार्थीहरु बिबस भएर काम गर्न वाध्य छन्। यो नेपालीहरु माथि नेपालीहरुकै शोषण किन? के यही हो नेपाली नेपाली बिचको आत्मियता? कती धेरै पैसा कमाउनु छ यि हाम्रा नेपाली ब्यबसायीहरुलाई? के यि ब्यबसायीहरुले आफ्नो सँघर्शका दिनहरु बिर्सें? बरु यि नेपाली ब्यबसायीहरुको तुलनामा हामीले तथानाम 'धोती' भनेर गाली गर्ने गरेका भारतीयहरुले राम्रो पारीश्रमिक दिन्छन्।
आज सिङो नेपाल जातियताको द्वन्दमा फसेको छ। हरेक जातजाती आ-आफ्नो राज्य बनाउनमा जुटेका देखिएका छन्। तर बिदेशमा बसेका हामी सम्पूर्ण नेपाली जसरी एक अर्कोलाई भेट्दा खुशी हुन्छौ, नेपालीहरुको हकहितको लागि जसरी सँगसंस्था बनाएर सभा सम्मेलन गर्छौ, त्यही किसिमको माया सद्भाब हाम्रा नेपाली ब्यबसायिहरुले पनि नेपाली विद्यार्थीहरुमाथी देखाँउन सके कती राम्रो हुन्थ्यो। ल ठीक छ तपाईंहरु नेपालीपनको भाबनालाई भन्दा आफ्नो ब्यबसायिकतालाई बढी प्राथमिकता दिनुस् तर कम से काम यिनिहरुको शोषण त नगर्नुस्!

..wtf is wrong wid ya gay goat and SIS whateve' ....aint show your freaking disgusting behavior, if u need car wash go n fc uk urself.....right on mr geo. tiger, well said, i hope those small business nepalese owners may be seeing out this..peace.

Yes, there are bad Nepalese employers.  To take undue advantage of someone weaker than you  is immoral, unethical and in many cases illegal but is a sad reality in America that is hard to change.

Most small retail stores of the type you talk about should not be hiring workers *at all*. Retail is typically a low margin business and costs have to be kept very low to survive. Let's do the math. In the Boston area, a typical 1000-feet store can cost you anywhere from $3000 to 5000+ in rent depending on the location. If you invested a $100,000 in buying a convenient store and want to break even in two-years, you are looking to have about $45,000 in monthly sales for  a monthly profit of $4500 (assuming an average  profit of 10% ).

Take away the $3,000 rent and you are left with $1500 to either pay our self or hire someone. If the owner hires a full-time person for 40 hours @ $8 per hour (MA minimum wage)  that comes to about $1300 a month spent in wages. Which leaves the owner just about $200 to take home. So as you can see if they had to pay minimum wage, many of these stores will  be out of business; hence the shoddy hiring.

Unfortunately employers all across America do this, not Nepalese and not just retail store owners. Farmers hire illegal Mexicans for half of minimum wage. Many homeowners bring in Guatemalans and Salvadorians to paint their houses and spruce up their gardens for chump change. Add to that the current economic slump and this is totally a buyers market for unskilled labor.

There are many small businesses who do not hire below minimum wages but may not be able to give you as many hours. The trick is to work for someone who is not in the business for quick profits, someone who has long term vision of their business and does not cut corners. Such people may be  harder to find, especially in retail, but they are out there.

The fact is working illegally in retail is just a shitty job and like all shitty jobs nothing much will change about it.  The best way to avenge such employers is by studying hard, finishing  college, saying good bye to the shitty employers and getting a good professional job or starting your own business

Good luck.

Absolutely agree with Vivant!

 

GT bro, while your concern seems valid to some extent, I believe “Sosan” is a harsh word to use. You work at your will, and I don’t think anybody can force you to do something that you don’t want. Also, how the employer treats his employees comes out of his personal nature. I don’t think it varies much based on where his employee is from. Everybody is looking for an opportunity to take advantage of. USA is not called “a country of opportunities” for no reason :)

Thanks Vivant!  you assumed only one employee and 10% margin.  Normally, average mark up in gas station merchandize is 20% (accordng to one gas station owner) and number of employees is 2 to 3. (store is open from 5 am to 11 am).  Still the bottom line is probably the same as you got!  Quoting you: "The best way to avenge such employers is by studying hard, finishing  college, saying good bye to the shitty employers and getting a good professional job or starting your own business " and quoting Katziman: "i do not think anybody can force you to do something that you don’t want"

सबभन्दा पहिले त साझामा रहेका दुईटा नमुनाहरु sexy in sari र gaygoat लाई मेरो भन्नु sexy, you are not sexy whether you wear sari or keep दारी, it doesn't matter. उही gaygoat जस्ता gay हरु  तिम्रो पछी लागे मात्र हो नत्र तिम्रो कुरा सुन्ने वाला कोही छैन, त्यही भएर बढ्ता फतर फतर नकराउ, अनी gaygoat तिमीलाई त तिम्रो gay association ले फोकट्मा घाँस खान दिहाल्छ होला अनी अरुलाई परेको समस्या त सबै तिम्रो लागि गफै त हुन्। अचानोको चोट खुकुरीलाई के थाहा?

अनी केही पनि बुझ्दै नबुझी वहियात भन्ने मित्र कि त तपाईं तिनै साहुजी मध्ये एक पर्नु भयो कि भने तपाईं हात्तीको कानमात्र समाएर हात्ती नङ्लो जस्तो हुँदो रहेछ भन्ने समुहमा पर्नु हुन्छ। तपाईंले बुझेको भन्दा बढ्ता सत्य अरु केही छैन भन्ने ठान्नु हुन्छ जस्तो लाग्यो। तर Vivant, katziman, र madhesi लाई भने तर्कपूर्ण बिचारको लागि धन्यवाद! बिशेषगरी Vivant लाई यस बिषयमा अझ धेरै जानकारी हासिल गरएकोमा धेरै धन्यवाद। वास्तवमै भन्ने हो भने विध्यार्थीहरुले त केही गर्न सक्ने स्थितिनै छैननी उनिहरु त यसै पनि कानुनी रुपमै तल परीसकेका हुन्छन् अनी अर्को कुरा सक्दो चाँडो पढाई सकाएर यस्तो कामको चक्करबाट उम्कने कुरा पनि ठीक हो। तर त्यो पढाई सकाउन पनि त पैसै चहियो बिना पैसा कसरी पढ्ने? अनी त फेरी घण्टा हान्नु परीहाल्यो। तर मेरो प्रश्न यि साहुजीहरुको मानबियतासँगको मात्र हो। यि नेपाली साहुजीहरु नेपाली विद्यार्थीहरुको सक्दो पेट काट्न चाहन्छन्। Vivant ले भने जस्तै अरु सबै साहुजीहरुले पनि यसै गर्दा हुन्, तर मेरो उनिहरुसँग केही गुनासो छैन। मेरो गुनासो त खाली नेपाली साहुजीहरुसँग मात्र हो, जो आफुलाई समाजसेबी बताउँछन्, नेपालीहरुको उद्दार गरिदिएको किस्सा सुनाउछन्, तर वास्तविकतामा ति नेपाली कामदारलाई सक्दो दलाँउछन्। तर मेरो यो ठम्याइ सबै नेपाली ब्यबसायिहरुको बारेमा भने होइन। केही नेपाली ब्यबसायिहरुले  सच्चा मनले अरु नेपालीहरुलाई सहयोग गरेको पनि देखेको छु र कतीपए दलाइएका नेपालीहरु पनि मेरो आँखाले देखेकोहुनाले नै उनिहरुको सम्स्या लेखेको हुँ र वास्तवमा यो मेरो अनुरोध नै हो नेपाली ब्यबसायीहरुलाई..

maalpani, raju, र atomic लाई धेरै धन्यवाद!

 

This is bullshyt..most small business owners make at least 7000 a month. i used to run a small convenient store, 3 in a US city like three times smaller than boston, no gas and easily making 6 to 8 k a month depending on the season. if someone is making 1500 from a business in boston , then they need to shut down their business and  go work in a call center or Indian restaurant, they'll make more. you guys are ready to use all kinda logic and reasoning to prove your invalid point, which is real sad.

again, i don't know what this guy is calling small business but most restaurants and gas stations need people to work. you can't just run the restaurant by yourself and your buddi ; you need a waiter, a dish washer, a cook, 2 or 3 helpers at least. and you need someone to attend gas station cuz you can't work 15 hours at least every day without taking a break. so they would have to hire someone anyway. most Nepali business owners are the same people who were struggling few years ago working for other Nepalis in their restaurants or running around for papers. they are crooks  and  most of them have not gone to school and hung out with educated crowd who believe in treating others with dignity and equality. So what do crooks do when they have power to screw others who are powerless, yes SCREW others. and thats what they are doing. It's sad. I urge all Nepali students to not come here in their under graduate without good back up for financial support, yes the real one . 

kalopani:  I do not own gas station nor sympathize with any one of them.  I am sure the owner of the gas station where you worked was paying you well when the store was making $6000 to $8000/month.  You did not state how much they paid you there, so i am assuminmg you were paid well.  Unfortunately, not all stores do that well.  I know at least 5 stores owned by Nepalese (gas station, 2 sub way sandwich, Quizno, and Blimpi) which had to be shut down due to losses they incurred.  They were in cities like Chicago, LA, and Dallas. Why do you think there are always small businesses like Gas station, sub way sandwich, or Quizno on sale?  Google for business for sale, you will find plenty.  Most of them are losing business.  Yes, there are some businesses doing excellent, and i think if you work for them, they will pay you well!  Students getting too low wages should be able to tell what kind of sale the store generating.

Also kalopani, a store generating $45000/month in sale as in the example of Vivant is above average store.  Not all store make that kind of sale.  Let us figure out the numbers for that store operated by husband and wife working 16 hrs/day, 7 days a week!

20% margin will give $9000 gross profit.

Expenses Rent: $3000

Utility - electricity (big freezes, coolers, 16 hr lighting, A/C or heaters): $500

Balance: $9000-$3500 = $6500

That is $3250 each for husband and wife each.

Since they work 16 hrs/day  x 7 days, it is 112 hrs/week (total 112 hrs/week x 4.25 week/month= 476 hrs/month), which is 2.8 times the normal work week. (people work 40 hrs /week in this country!)

If you consider how much they made each month working 40hrs/week, it comes out to be $3250/2.8 = $1160/month.  They made $3250/month because they worked equivalent to not just 2 shifts, but 2.8 shifts.  Running a business is hard in this country, as you can see!  Hourly wage comes out to be $3250/month / 476 hrs/month = $6.82/hrs!  So the owners are making $6.82/hr working 476hrs each month.

But wait, i have not yet deducted all the taxes they have to pay, for being a self employed individuals. -- 7.5% unemployment tax, 7.5% SS tax, not to mention state tax, federal tax.  You go figure out what is left now.  Is it $5/hr?  Where is  money left to pay their employees?

I did not even include other unexpected expenses like maintaining the store, fixing or reparing freezes, A/C unit and so on...

You stated students are in consant fear of being caught in the next 10 years, but so are those employers!

 

 

madheshi,

 I did not  justwork in that store, i also ran that store, and it wasn't a gasstation. however, i have worked in gastations when i said 6 to 8 k, i meant profit so all your gibberish math is a waste of time. it was owned by one of my family members. so i know inside out of that place. and we were paying a partner 2000 a month as a salary over the shared profit.

you said, you didn't own a store but you kept going with your bs math. you know why people sell stores ? most people buy stores for cheap, run it and when it runs good sell them for profit. i know lots of people who have done that. now , i'm not saying that all business go on profit. i'm sure lot of people go on loss too, but again thats what my point was, if you're not incurring enough profit to make up for your own time at the store working there , then you shouldn't be hiring a Nepali student and try to maupulate them because of their visa restriction. remember, what the topic of this thread was?

 

Once gain kalopani:  i read your post too fast. So i missed the great lines of yours: Only cure , i see is to stay in Nepal and try to be creative. you can eat better food, have social life and when you walk down the street you can walk with dignity.

I agree wholeheartedly!  There was an article not too long ago in Newsweek or Time or magazine of that sort stating that the US is missing great talents from countries like India since some (or most?) are preferring to go back home after finishing PhD or so, simply because getting a GC requires just too long, as long as 10 years!  Some of the Indian enterpreneurs turned out to be very succesful in india during the same 10 yr period!  Why bother waiting here!

and madeshi, you are saying a store a store generating $45000/month in sale as in the example of Vivant is above average store. what makes your make that claim? have you done research on all small businesses in the USA, or that is just some random number you came up with your make  your point here. what kind of business you're talking , if you're talking about a gas station. let me tell you, from my work experences in different gasstations and stores most gasstation easliy make about 4000 dollars sales in a day. so that random 45000 a month in sales number you're trying to use to make your point is a total b.s. your whole math is based on b.s so it does not make any sense. your genius math concluded that store owners make less than 5 dollars an hour which is a total grabage. if that was the case most internations would be working as janators or not even immigrating to the usa.and you would never see them buying a house, sending their children to good schools or expanding their business. another random variable you use out of your assumption is the 20% profit margin. again, what kind of business is that? if it's a restaurant they might make more than that, if it's a gastation , it depends if they're making that money in inside sales or on gas. gas sales are usually to bring in the customers so they buy inside the store, inside stores have higher profit margin. your gas sales should cover your fixed costs like electricily, rent etc and at least pay part of your employee cost. Again, i'm not saying all businesses run by Nepali or desi are profitable, some may go on loss, but that was my whole point if you're not making enough profit to even make up for you time and energy you're puting in at your business then you shouldn't be hiring a Nepali student so you can manupulate,just cuz he happen to be less fortunate in this country because of his visa status.

i liked your last comment, i do believe that Nepali students if they dont' have total financial support to continue their studies should stay back and work hard over there rather than just jumping to the boat of uncertinity and hoping that everything will go well once they arrive here. what tears me apart is sometimes i see lots of talented Nepali younge brothers who quit their studies and go out of status. it's sad, they could do much better back home. and immigration process that starts from f1 to GC is a long and agonizing process and lately i'm seeing some Nepalis having to go home or try to immigrate to canada with no gc after all that. and i'm sorry yesterday and this morning i was personally little frustrated cuz someone called me sand nigger after 13 years of my struggle in the usa, and i was just minding my own business. it's funny how they generalize allt he people in the world with the easy thing to catogorize. for them all asians are asians, they dont' care that korea and japan and china have different language and culture and they may have not even liked each other. similar, they like go generalize all indians, Nepalis with sand niggers unless proven otherwise. they dont' know and care to know that all dark people are not muslims. but that is a whole different topic, i guess the topic was how some Nepalis take advantage of other unfortunate ones.  i apologize for any negativity.

Everest Realty in MA is one of them.  Slumlords of MA.  Capitalizing on subprime morgages, victimizing seedha saaadha Nepalese.

So if you want run down apartments for rent or wanna buy a crack house don't forget EVEREST REALTY.

Kalopani;  I got $45000/month sale figures from most of the store owners I knew.  I have no personal experience like you have.  That also proves I never worked in a gas station or ever owned one.  Is that the store making $4000/day sales netting $6 to $8000/month?  I wish I had that kind of stores! 

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GT guru,

Nicely written thoughts and facts as well.  May be few people here in sajha think that they are the smartest ass. Even people who r working on hourly basis are not all supportive. This might be because they are working @ dhotis and getting more stings. From my experience, I can express it here that those store owner mostly came from DV program. They have no idea, what would be like worry about financial issues and sponsoring your own education and living here in US. As GT, already mentioned at the begining of his thread, there are people who are assistantship who has only the experience of time confilict but not of financial hardship. GT is among those but my hats off to him, he is still concerned about fellow nepalease student.


Guru, keep some snow for me

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thnks Narane, hmm snow ta baki huncha nai hola, yo choti yaha white christmas nai hola jasto cha, aunu ni

thnks newlynew, madhesi and kalopani

khai kohi sahuji haruko ankha ma pani yo kura parcha ki?