So while coming to conclusions reading many and many books. Rais limbus Gurung etc so called them Mongolied are not even close to being called as gorkhas. Not talking about their ancestors but they have been taking too much advantages like they are the real gorkhas. This issue should be solved too. Why are they taking our ancestors name and utilizing to their own gain. This should be a debate. Just saw a couple of ex British Gurkhas video in youtube they are more inclined towards British crown than their country. This should come out in open. No disrespect to all others who die for their country serving Nepalese army

Krishna Bro 

Nalapani bro, I tried to go through your older posts this morning, but really couldn't find any substantial literature on him. And then the Sajha archives just became too slow. San, please up the ante on the archives, will ya? Bro, please direct me to some links of GS Rayamajhi. I would really love to read more. Except few pictures, really couldn't find anything on google.

Many, yes those were the warriors, just fearsome. One of my favorite was Bhakti Thapa. But I would be just a wee bit careful trying to belittle the contribution of today's Gorkhas. To me, every soldier that joins the army deserves some praise because they have voluntarily decided to serve. One may argue on the narrative of who they serve, but joining the ranks is putting your life on the line and to me that's honorable.

We have a long line of generations of ancestors that have come before me, up to my father, that have joined the army. This is is a fascinating subject matter and I will be following this thread and look forward to your contribution.

Hey guys,
Here are some very useful and resourceful links of Gorkhas. These sites are created and managed by one of my friends Nigel St.George. He has dedicated his time and efforts to help Gorkhas. So we can all be very thankful to him.

http://www.2ndgoorkhas.com/
http://www.rgrra.com/ (The Royal Gurkha Rifles)
http://www.2ndgoorkhas.com/gurka_news_noticeboard.html

And a nice music video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTD29MEB-XQ

Enjoy!

Many bro: Mostly, I hate to argue these days. However, when do you think Gorkha recruitment started? Right after Sugauli treaty, right? in 1816 AD. Look when 9th GR dates back. Gurung-Magar were under Sirmoor while khas and Garhwalis were in Garhwal rifle. Later Garhwal rifle got separated and khas soldiers were put under 9th Gorkha. Yes, you are right Nepal darwar (even Ranas until Bir) were against Gorkha recruitment, but Nepalese people joined somehow.
Read an article entitled " Ochterlony's men" published in Himal mag carefully. It shows how British raised Malaun regiment (later named as Nasiree meaning friendship) even during the Anglo-Nepal war ca 1815.

http://old.himalmag.com/component/content/article/735--ochterlonys-men.html

BTW, Gorkha recruitment was a point in Sugauli treaty.

Are you confused about the term Thakuri? I am sensing that.

About Tandons, I am talking about notable ones. There must be chhetris of almost all surname in that status, even magars. So I still don't buy Tandons. We have a military cross in our family, but I don't claim our surname as notable ones. Rest, your wish.

It's for you Krishna bro, enjoy. 

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That's my point bro. Looks like you don't understand English. The article is all about the Formation of Malaun regiment, the army British unofficially/ illegally raised even during the war. After Sugauli treaty British were able to recruit Nepalese of martial race in their army, officially. Read my comment again, hope you understand now :) . I don't see any point to answer your questions, they are out of context. I don't have to prove myself to know everything, which I don't. But I know the shit I am talking here. BTW, do you care to name the Tandon guy? Bye!

Nalapani Bro
The real issue here was Other beside rai Limbu ect were not allowed to be recruited directly to British Gorkha. What are you talking about? You made a counter attack they joined illegally. Please go through the post before you comment bro.

Khoi ta Nalapani bro, timle pathako colonel Rayamajhi ko ta padhnai paiyena. I can read everything in Nepali besides your posting.

Many

Who are "Gorkhas" and what makes a "Gorkhali"?

I don't have a definite answer for that,but to my understanding,the army raised by PN Shah during the unification of Nepal were first called "Gorkhalis" as they fought under the house of Gorkha.Later on it was a blanket term used to refer any army/civilian within the political boundary of Nepal or even a foreigner of Nepali lineage.

When the Brits first started recruiting Nepalese citizen,the certain ethnic tribes you are referring to were not the only ones who were favored.This happened much later.

It could be a simple case of the battalion made up of the said ethnic tribe took orders well hence fought better OR it could well be a British "rajneeti".There are various research/theory/opinion on this matter.

What do you mean when you say "taking too much advantages like they are the real gorkhas"?

Let me dumb this down for you.Nobody is born smart/dumb/brave/kayar etc.The environment/education/training/mentor etc make a world of a difference.

The motivation /hunger in the said community to join the British/Indian army is huge.For most of them,it is a ticket out of poverty and to some it is about family history/profession.

Like Nalapani mentioned...it is all about economics.Papi pet.

Love it or hate it,these very community made the "Gorkhalis" world famous.In the past 100 years,for the rest of the world,a "Gorkhali" is a Mongoloid.India included.

A man has to do what a man has to do.Leaving the comfort of your home turf for the better future of you and your family,sounds familiar?That is what this is all about.

....and the army MUST be loyal to the crown they fighting for.

My dui paisa.

daaku trying to be smart by rephrasing the stuff already written by the guys before him.

^Lol

...says a fothermucker whose mom is his sister.Do you even know what "rephrasing" means?

u mad bro? ure sis socks good.

These days anyone who likes to fight on Sajha threads are called Gorkhalis cos they are so brave.

Many
Are you serious or trolling? I got it, you are novice in history and have the delirium you know everything, it happens; happened to me some 10-15 years ago. Have you heard about Sardar Nandu Shah, hero of Sindhuligadhi war, who led a flank attack against Capt. Kinloch? He was a thakuri in unification army, You must have been in some kind of confusion between chhetri and thakuri. You can't see term Chhetri in Nepali history before Junga Bdr's reign, for he decreed all khas soldiers and public to call themselves as chhetri after 2nd tibbet war.

I don't know why you are finding hard to accept the fact, But, in fact Rai-Limbus were recruited way later than khas-thakuri and Magar-Gurung in british army. REad more, you are having "Little knowledgitis" syndrome. Just search 9th Gorkha and 2nd Gorkha which were/are Khas-thakuri and Magar-Gurung dominant regiments and descended from Garhwal rifle and Sirmoor, the two oldest Gorkha units formed right after Sugauli treaty. The artilce I posted is only about how British formed Gorkhali army during Anglo-Nepal war, illegally (Malaun Regiment).

By the way, I can smell haterd in you. You don't have to disparage contribution of any other community. FYI, King Grivanu Yuddha established a Kiranti (Rai,Limbu and Sunuwar) dominant unit in Nepal army, which still exists. Find the name of that unit, it's a little homework for you.

P.S. I am a Chhetri and hate none....

Nalapani Bro
I am serious and not trolling. I seriously doubt that before 1816 and till Bir shamsher Bahun Chhteris were legally allowed to join the Gorkha regiment. i am still taking your advise and doing extensive reading on 2nd battallion 2nd Gorkha and i will soon post you what i think. 9th Gorkha was established after 1916 so i do not agree with you. About others please keep the debate healthy hence cursing. It is not hatred what i am trying to bring here but when poliltics and Nepalese army comes they always say there is nepotism. But when they recruit now a days for gorkha army why don't we talk about Rai limbus Nepotism. My only concern. And thank you nalapani bro maybe i need to read more i agree and i will do and come back with counter attack.
Daaku bro i like to agree with you but sorry i cannot just because they do not agree with you i do not think there is any need to try to humiliate people. There are many people is Sajha who agrees with me. Why Bahuns and Chhetris are blamed but when we talk about other ethnics trying to keep jobs in their family suddenly there is a big problem. if you accuse you need also be ready to be accused.

Nalapani is right.

Also, please let us not ruin this Sajha community. This is our Nepalese brotherhood. We can discuss, debate, but people here are foul mouthing.

BTW, I like Daaku's Dui Paisa :) I'm borrowing that term brother.

Please Many and Nalapani, if you guys have time, keep debating. I am interested in our martial history. Thanks for all the healthy debate.

Nalapani Bro