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abhored
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Posted on 07-20-08 8:41
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There is this thing in American culture.Every time an underdog is supported. Americans supported Rocky when he fought against Apollo Creed in that movie Rocky.Spiderman another underdog became a mass hysteria when people found out that he was bullied in the school.Americans always always go for the underdogs..they create the underdog and they destroy that underdog....It is like a norm or taboo for American culture.. We have this underdog here.Mr Barrack Obama.A charismatic leader ,an hypnotizing orator.First African American presidential candidate.He has American public behind him...He used the word "change" , and that word acted like a vaccination to American Public.People have this hope ,that this war and current recession and mortgage crisis would end if Obama goes to Washington as The Commander in cheif the world is watching ..The world is waiting for the change.. But i believe that he is one Socialist person. He is trying to introduce communism in this capitalist country. What does Obama stands for? a stronger central government like the Kremlin in Muscow..To force the rich people to pay more taxes so that the gap of rich and poor diminishes.If this idea is not derived from the Karl Marx's book "Das Capital"..then what is this? This is one form of communism. America is one capitalist country.This is country is what it is today because of the capitalism.And capitalism is the "coolest" thing in the world.The consumer satisfaction runs the market today.And Mr.Obama tries to come to the White house and turn the farms in rural area into "Sovkhoz" and "Kohlkoz".. If the word democracy has to survive in the world,then Obama has to lose the election.I am not saying that Mccain is better candidate,but he is not a person who talks like V.I lenin.. If Obama wins the election then this is the beginning of the END... abhored..
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whois
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Posted on 07-20-08 8:45
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I adore his speech .. I watched this live on ustream yesterday
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abhored
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Posted on 07-20-08 8:46
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Even Adolf Hitler was a great Orator.Even he hypnotized the masses..
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whois
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Posted on 07-20-08 8:59
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Yes, certainly sounds like little bit communist.. but that wouldn't make any difference to lower and middle class like us.... it will certainly make difference to very rich people... But this guy will certainly bring difference on how every now thinks of America..That's a change..
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tha_dude
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:00
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Buddy Abhored,
Where u from. Majority of us in US fo sure don't see Obama like Hitler from any angeles????
He is one heck of smart dude. Remember, getting J.D from Harvard Law ain't joke.
Obama '08!!!
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abhored
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:02
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so what do u mean? u mean that we live in this country and we cant practice the essential elements of democracy? Capitalism is better than communism in every aspects.Dude if it starts from the top .it will hit the bottom.If the rich people are forced to pay more taxes ,what is going to happen to us? U think that we the poor will be saved?
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abhored
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:06
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"the dude"..is that from "the big lebowski"? I am not saying that he is that monster hitler..i am just trying to tell he has this socialist and marxist approach . and that would be cool in certain easter european country.but not in this capitalist country..hoina ra?
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:27
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Adhored, I agree with your points. But will never agree that 'capitalism is better than communism' at least for me.
I liked 'Obama' by his socialistic approach . To support your claims, read this article too.
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/
Obama’s Communist Mentor
AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | February 18, 2008
Is “coalition politics†at work in Obama’s rise to power?
In his biography of Barack Obama, David Mendell writes about Obama's life as a "secret smoker" and how he "went to great lengths to conceal the habit." But what about Obama's secret political life? It turns out that Obama's childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.
In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature. But he ridicules the charge of being a "hard-core academic Marxist," which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes.
However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."
The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations.
Trevor Loudon, a New Zealand-based libertarian activist, researcher and blogger, noted evidence that "Frank" was Frank Marshall Davis in a posting in March of 2007.
Obama's communist connection adds to mounting public concern about a candidate who has come out of virtually nowhere, with a brief U.S. Senate legislative record, to become the Democratic Party frontrunner for the U.S. presidency. In the latest Real Clear Politics poll average, Obama beats Republican John McCain by almost four percentage points.
AIM recently disclosed that Obama has well-documented socialist connections, which help explain why he sponsored a "Global Poverty Act" designed to send hundreds of billions of dollars of U.S. foreign aid to the rest of the world, in order to meet U.N. demands. The bill has passed the House and a Senate committee, and awaits full Senate action.
But the Communist Party connection through Davis is even more ominous. Decades ago, the CPUSA had tens of thousands of members, some of them covert agents who had penetrated the U.S. Government. It received secret subsidies from the old Soviet Union.
You won't find any of this discussed in the David Mendell book, Obama: From Promise to Power. It is typical of the superficial biographies of Obama now on the market. Secret smoking seems to be Obama's most controversial activity. At best, Mendell and the liberal media describe Obama as "left-leaning."
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:35
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buddy Stat.. are u trying to say that North Korean Government and Former Soviet Union are better than Capitalism?? Sir, with all due respect..It is because of this capitalism we are here in this country.It is because of capitalism we live like a human being and we have the right to express.. 2006 ma white house ko press conference...Stephen Colbert was invited in White House..He insulted President Bush in the white house..Can people of the communist country enjoy these kinda privilege ? This is capitalism..This is a synonym of the word "democracy"..
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bhaikancha
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:38
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Communism is the next logical step of Capitalism.
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Rewire
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:39
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He'll be a token BLACK president and shooed away; there'll NOT be another black president for a long time after that. Bush is leaving him with Iraq, inflation, debt (in the Trillions, you know how much is that???),energy crisis (gas), down spiraling housing market, weak dollar and finally Iran. It's almost imposiible to fix those within 8 years, even Almight God cannot do it. If that is not enough, Barack will be bringing access baggage of being the first black president which take time and energy to reslove and subdue. Too much focus will be on that instead of other important issues. So bottom line...Barack will NOT do anything of consequences for people like us.
Remember..Clinton left Bush with $500+ billion surplus in budget. Barack is NOT lucky like Bush. He is at the WRONG time in the history of the US, some say other wise.
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abhored
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:41
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bhaikancha , I will have to disagree with you.Communism is similar to Fascism... Communism strips the basic rights of human beings...Capitalism can never do that..Capitalism exists to satisfy the human demands.. We have to salute Capitalism..
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abhored
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:43
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Rewire, thats why need person like Ron Paul or Senetor Jim Webb as the president of USA.. McCain is better than Obama..but he is not Ron Paul or Jim Webb..
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last_buddha
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:48
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dude abhored no matter what obama stand for we can't afford to have one more republican in white house.. go obama
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whois
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:49
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abhored ,,, i don't think McCain is better than Obama!! he's like Bush republican.... I agree on what Rewire said
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whois
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:49
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abhored ,,, i don't think McCain is better than Obama!! he's like Bush republican.... and I've to agree on what Rewire saie
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abhored
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:51
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but can we afford to have the first communist president of USA? last Budhha..please read that book "audacity of hope" and try to understand barrack obama..
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:53
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who the fk said that Obama should not be the 44th president of the United States? S/he can go and fk themselves
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abhored
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:54
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Whoisthis ..I agree that McCain is a republican.but he is a liberal republican..i am not saying that he is the best..but he is better than Obama.Remember that 2004 election where he was destroyed by Bush in South Calorina GOP primary.. He is 100 times better than OBAMA..but he certainly is not Bill Clinton or Ronald Regan. Obama should not win this election kunai halat ma paani..
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Simsim
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:56
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Abhored
Don't fool yourself. Every system has its pros and cons. No system is perfect in itself.
Private property right and periodic elections are two important aspects of democratic system not of capitalism. Socialists have already adopted these two aspects. It is bluder to think democracy as synonimous to capitalism.
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