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 Aviation rules in Nepal: From the Nepali Times
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Posted on 10-03-06 11:08 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Not sure if this article has already been posted on Sajha but I was waiting for someone to ask this question in a thoughtful way, which this article has done:

From the Nepali Times

Wing and prayer

Last week’s crash shows, yet again, that aviation rules in Nepal need an overhaul

SOMA SEN


It may still be too early to draw definite conclusions on the crash of a Shree Airlines MI-17 near Ghunsa last week with the tragic loss of lives.

But given reports of heavy rains and rough terrain there are reasons to suspect CFIT—that familiar and ominous acronym that has made Nepal the country with one of the worst air safety records in the world.

Controlled Flight into Terrain is the technical terminology for an aircraft flying into a mountain in bad weather. Of the 15 fatal crashes in Nepal since 1992 with the loss of 320 lives, 12 were CFIT.

To be sure, flying in the Himalaya is difficult even in the best weather conditions: with tricky, ill-equipped airports, lack of navigational beacons, and turbulence. When you mix clouds with mountains, the situation becomes exponentially more risky. “Flying in Nepal in the monsoon, there is one thing we always tell junior pilots: avoid clouds, they have rocks in them,” says one trainer pilot with Nepal Airlines.

Even experienced pilots find flying in the Himalaya a challenge. The army pilot who set a world record by landing his EADS Ecureuil on the Western Cwm on a mountaineering rescue in 1996 crashed his B2, a chopper modified for high altitude performance, at Everest Base Camp. In May this year, an MI-8 trying to take off from Dhaulagiri Base Camp with eight climbers on board had to make a hard landing. All escaped miraculously. “Taking a helicopter to a mountain is more dangerous than climbing it,” said one mountaineer in a blog post. There have been four chopper crashes at Everest Base Camp alone and two more have crashed en route in the past five years.

Over-confidence can also be a reason when pilots rely too much on the Global Positioning System, which draws a straight line to the destination without taking terrain into account during white-outs. There is a tendency not to circulate inquiry reports from past accidents and therefore failure to learn from mistakes.

Terrain warning systems are not mandatory in Nepal, and even when they are installed in the cockpit, the audio warnings tend to be ignored because pilots are always flying close to mountains. There is Enhanced Ground Proximity Warning (EGPW) equipment available, which integrates a satellite-based 3D topographic image of the route and warns pilots of mountains ahead even when obscured by cloud. But these can cost upto $100,000.

Even if EGPW one day became mandatory on aircraft flying within Nepal, the Civil Aviation Authority has to ask what do we do till then. If the weather was as bad as the met office said it was last Saturday, the MI-17 had no business being in Ghunsa. This is a narrow valley and the helipad itself at 4,300m. At the time of takeoff, it was surrounded by swirling mist.

Whether the chopper went down because of loss of control due to turbulence caused by up-valley catabatic winds or hit a cloud-covered mountainside is now academic. The inquiry commission must not just answer what happened, it must also have recommendations on how to prevent similar accidents in future.

Can we have new Instrument Flying Rule (IFR) thresholds for safe flying in high mountain areas? Should we leave private and charter flying in remote areas in bad weather just to pilot discretion? We must also have better navaids in remote area airports. If a crash does happen, aircraft must have satellite tracking devices so we don’t see a repeat of an aircraft disappearing without trace for four days. The fact that an Asian Airlines MI-17 that disappeared on a flight from Makalu Base Camp to Lukla carrying porters from a French Makalu Expedition in June 2002 has still not been found shows us that flying in Nepal needs much more stringent rules than those in other countries.
 
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Controlled flight into terrain (CFIT) is a term developed by engineers at Boeing in the late 1970s. It describes an accident whereby an airworthy aircraft, under complete control of the pilot(s), inadvertently flies into terrain (or an obstacle, or water). The pilots are generally unaware of the danger until it is too late. In civil and especially private aviation, CFIT may be humorously referred to as rock-filled cloud or 'cumulogranite' when it is caused by terrain being obscured by clouds.


More target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFIT> here
 
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Posted on 10-03-06 11:15 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepal is a state of lawlessness forget about rules and regulations.
 
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Interesting compilation Captain!....keep them coming hai!
 
Posted on 10-03-06 2:24 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Do not blame to weather only…. There is other reason too.

Nepali aircraft and helicopter crashed because of these…

Nepali corrupted business brought expires and out-dated aircraft and helicopter from desperate economy crisis countries like ex-Russia or Russian. Which should not use in anyplace because any time these kind of expire aircraft can crash.

Beyond capacity, Usually Nepali government high official use beaurocratic force to fly bad condition and under capacity. When Nepali government official need to go somewhere they forcefully order to fly with heavy weight which aircraft can not lift up in the air. Cause of heavy weight, aircraft can not turn or maneuver while it is needed. That cause fatal air crash.

Irresponsible aircraft maintenance, there are good quality aircraft maintenance crew and both government / business do not care in aircraft maintenance which cause easy aircraft crash in the service time.
 
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nationalist5,
yeah there could be several reasons, however, you cannot argue based on just speculations.

it's quite obvious that our aviation system is not one of the best/sound ones, technically, both in terms of equipments and manpower!

as the article pointed out, first thing is that we do not have equipments that can help in navigating across a difficult terrain that country like ours has. secondly, there aren't too many experts (engineers, oversears, technicians, pilots) who could maneauver the ones that are available. the general tendency of brain drain that nepal has been going through, has a severe overall impact in all sectors. whom to blame? big question!

LooTe
 
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Some factors..............
(a) over confidence in part of crew members with poor navigational aids
(b) lack of adequate machanism with CAAN and poor navigational facility
(c) "safety is secondary, money is primary" mentality existing with airline companies
(d) traditional type "meteorological briefing" in aviation in Nepal
(e) ...........................................
 
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i am agreed with VAtatata
 


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