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 RAMCHANDR POUDEL
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ONCE UPON A TIME RAMCHANDRA POUDEL WAS A ELECTED MEMBER OF PALIAMENT AND ALSO HAD BECOME ONE OF THE HOME MINISTERS OF NEPAL! NOW HE HAS TO BEG FOR HIS HEALTH AND TREATMENT FROM HIS OWN DISTRICT, FROM THE MERCILESS LAP HIS OWN MOTHERLAND.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN FALL UNDER THE TYRANT LIKE KING G AND HIS FATHER MAHENDRA - WHO CAN STAGE THE MASSACRE OF HIS OWN BROTHER AND HIS ENTIRE FAMILY TO GET INTO THIS POWER THAT HE HAS!

POUDEL JI, YOUR REVOLUTION IS UNDONE. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU COMPROMISE WITH THE TERROR. TERROR CAN NOT HAVE MERCY!

Poudel demands treatment in capital
http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=36399

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POKHARA, April 5 - Senior Nepali Congress (NC) leader Ram Chandra Poudel, who is undergoing treatment for multiple ailments here, demanded to be taken to Kathmandu for treatment.
Doctors involved in his treatment advised him to go to Kathmandu as there was no MRI facility in the hospital. "The problem in his spinal cord seems to be serious," Dr Budhi Bahadur Thapa, coordinator of the doctors' team treating the NC leader, said.

This News was Posted on: 2005-04-05 20:31:43

 
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By the way, Poudel was one of the Nepali Cogressmen who did support the monarchy and defended. He defuted the Maoists demand for the constitutional assembly.

How shame! How unkind is the king G and his devotees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I have been keeping my eyes on you for several weeks now. Something is surely bugging your head. One of the symptoms of suicidal. Never seen anyone that angry. Son! You are a hater and it is not good for your health.
If you really enjoy commenting threads there are plenty of stupid ones like; Song Playing on my mind, let's talk about soccer, how do you like your girl's hair?, etc etc.

If you really care about people and it is hurting you to see our own Nepalese getting hurt, then you should read Newuser's thread "Are you dead or alive or something like that...." and if you care...be part of something that could actually help Nepalese people, Something that could really make a difference in people’s lives.. Don't be just sitting here and talking sh*t all day. People don't even open tha thread when they see the thread is started by StandUpForyourRight...cause they already know what you gonna talk about... and you have nothing creative to say other that b*tch about crap.
Let me be honest...you sound like pretty stupid...ignorant...non-Nepalese, Veda...who goes and throws stone at whoever your leader ask you to, without thinking.


 
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LMAO.
hahahahahahhahahahahhahah:)
 
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I don't know folks but I liked Ram chandra Paudel as a politician. he is not like any other politicians like Govinda Raj Joshi or (Khursani Maila) Chiranjivi wagle. But we all have likes and Dislikes so you can comment on it.

Peace
 
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My bad...my last comment was not meant for this thread but for StandUpForYourRight's other thread about Nepal and Nepalese. It is an honest mistake. I like Ram Chandra Paudel a lot. He is one of those few good politicians we have ever had. I hope he is doing better and I pray for his quick recovery.
 
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सबै नेता हरु लाइ treatment गर्ने ठेक्का लिएको छ र सरकार ले?
 
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Dude!
They are not talking about his treatment. They are talking about his house arrest. He is still in house arrest even if his health is deterioting. I think, he once told to press as a Maoist's head quater is NIRMAL NIWAS, that's why King G treating him like this.
 
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This is my first response in sajha! Until then I was just a reader. What made me come in here was the writings and thoughts of standforyourrights. I thought he or she was writing very much the truth of what we Nepali are like - including myself. I really do not think it is fare to response his like HOTSTUFF has done in this thread. I think HOTSTUFF reflect his own frustation with his criticism to what really happened and what's happening to Nepal and to us in Nepal and outside Nepal. It really shows in HOTSHOT the true nature of what STANDFORYOURRIGHTS calls it "GORKHALINESS".

You can not just have fun stuffs and scape from the reality. Howerver reality is bitter and critical to Nepal and ourselves. This is my suggestion to HOTSTUFF.
 
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Rana Sahib, Helen something lai ta 100,000 pound diyeko thiyo ta..

 
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Sweetheros,
I am glad that you have decided to throw your comment and you did the right thing.
It was about time. I was just like you till last month. I would just read never respond. Until I read NepaliRamGurung's post. Like everyone else, I had something to say.
About RamchandraPoudel thread...My first comment was not meant for this thread. It was an honest mistake. I adore that man and I would pray for his quick recovery. There was this other thread going from Standforyour's at the same time. After going through so many threads I just didn't realized, until I post it, that I was on the wrong thread.

I had been reading Standforyourright's comments for about 3 weeks now...and It disgusted me the way he called every Nepalese in the world a DICKHEAD Jackass. If you are a Nepalese..According to him you are also one of the dickheads. It sounded like This person has never appreciated any thing in life other than just b*tch about every little thing...from Daura suruwal, to our flag, our history, our present, and discouraging dark future. He always called My Mother Land a failed Nation. He sounds like some one who has some education and our responsibility is to encourage younger ones to love our nation even if are really, really poor and ....to encourage every Nepalese to stay together and be united in times like this....But this man has nothing good to say about anything...He must have spent days and nights...writing sh*t to give the world the impression that how f**cked we are, how messed our country is, how divided we are and most of all, he sounded like Nepal has no identity of our own at all....and all those negative thoughts. If you are Nepalese...You represent your country every where you go. Your attitude, the single world that comes out your mouth..Speaks a lot about where you have come from, where you belong, and how you have brought up. I don't hate StandforYourright. I don't even know him.. He could be ..who?s that f*8k face?oohh yeah Mr.Girija Prashad Koirala...just frustrated, nothing to do with the house arrest..and just killing time here...But no matter who he is...He has always been offensive to all Nepalese, hater, and a perfect nepalese spokes person for all those people who Hates Nepal. If you like his ideas Go kiss his stinky ass and shut your pie hole. This is a free world. Join his club If that helps you to sleep better tonight. If fight for my nation?s pride make me a gorkhali?then?yes I am Gorkhali and I am proud of it. And there is nothing you can do about it. I would rather be gorkhali than like some of you who loves to be Lallu Prashad Yadav?s f*ck Buddy. Good Luck with Lallu. Here's some of his comments...Read these and talk to me...
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Shame on Nepali king G & his Parja Gorkhali
WOW Moran Gorkhali Parja of a king G

Thy lovest the king G from thee fear

Or thee deservest to be called Moran

Brain dead Parja of Nepal

Shame on thee - the Parja of Gorkhali king and his nation

Thee sayest peace is before Democracy!

Hail to Thee the selfish jackles of Mountain streams

I ask thee what is the meaning of peace?

Where there is the absolute abuse of human rights

And suspension of the fundamental rights of people

Suspension of the process of Democracy

Restirction to the press and freedom of speech;

Is thee the sheep of the mountain

Where mountain gods scares you to death?

Jee, thee the slave the worshipper of Kalki.

I do not cry for thee like humans who act like sheep. standforyourrights
03/30/2005
Pictures of the NY RALLY
Mr. Poonte: OK each one of Nepali or foreigner is free to support king G's Feb 1, 2005 declaration to suspend the fundamental rights of people and Democracy but NOT TAKING A CASH FROM KING'S FUND TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE THE CRAP WHAT HE IS DOING IN NEPAL AGAINST THE WILL AND FEELINGS OF PEOPLE OF NEPAL AND THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITIES UNDER THE EMERGENCY AT GUN POINT?

THIS SORT OF SUPPORT IN A LAND OF FREEDOM AND OPPORTUNITY IS DISGRACEFUL TO PEOPLE OF AMERICA AND THE COUNTY. THIS IS OUTRIGHT DISRESPECTFUL.

THIS IS WHAT I CALL THE GORKHALINESS: FOR EXAMPLE IN NEPALI THE MOST OF THE GORKHALIS TAKE THE MOST ADVANTAGE OF THE FOREIGN ADD AND PROJECTS AS WELL AS FROM THE TOURISTS FROM EUROPE AND AMERICA YET THEY CALL THEM AMONG NEPALI "KUERRE". NO REGARDS AND RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO MAKE YOUR LIFE POSSIBLE YOUR LIFT YOU DOWNTRODDEN LIFE STYLE TO A LITTEL BIT BETTER LIFE. GORKAHALIS DOES NOT DESERVE FOREIGN ADD AND SUPPORT.

SHAME ON THESE GORKHALI. I WOULD NOT MIND THEM TO CALL DICKHEAD JACKASS AND I AGREE THEY SHOULD BE DEPORTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

WHAT IS GORKHALINESS:

"STUPID, STUBORN, DICKHEAD, COCKSURE, SUPPERSTIOUS, ADICTIVE, SELFISH, BRAINDEAD, FEAR STRICKEN - WHO BELIEVE IN SACRIFICING A POOR GOAT OR BUFFOLLO OR CHICKEN TO A MOUNTAIN GOD LIKE BHAIRAVA OR DEVI TO CURSE HIS OWN BROTHER TO GO TO HELL - WHO GIVE UNNECESSARY TROUBLE TO WICK TRIBESMAN IF HE OR SHE DOES BELIEVE WHAT GORKHALI BELIEVES - WHO DOES NOT MIND TO LIVE ON SOMEONES PROPERTY, WHO DOES NOT MIND TO CONFISCATE OTHERS WEALTH, WHO DOES NOT MIND TO LIE, WHO KILLS HIS OWN KINS MEN AND CALLS SOMEONE DID IT, NOT ME."

SINCE GORKHALINESS REPRESENTS MINDLESSNESS - NO FAR SIGHTED VISION BUT FEAR STRICKEN AND SELFISH LIKE A WORM GORKHALI CAN SUPPORT KING G WITH NO SECOND THOUGHT, BUT CANNOT PONDER OVER THE TRUTH THAT DEMOCRACY AND FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF PEOPLE REFLECTS. GORKHALI CANNOT ASK TO HIMSELF THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS:

WHAT IS WORTH HAVING A NATION THAT DOES NOT GIVE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF PEOPLE AND THE PRACTICE OF RULE OF LAW - DEMOCRACY BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE?

IS NOT IT LIKE LIVING IN LIKE ANIMALS IN A FARM WITHOUT THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHS OF PEOPLE?

WHAT IS THE USE OF THE PEACE UNDER THE GUN POINT AT ANY TIME VERY GORKHALI AND THE PUPPET OF king G CAN BE THE TARGET POINT?

WHAT KIND OF KING IS THIS WHO SNATCH THE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE, WHO HAD INSISTED ON THE CASTE SYSTEM TO DIVIDE HUMANS OF NEPAL, WHO INSISTS ON THE EXISTENCE OF THE FEUDAL LORDS OF VILLAGE TO BE HIS GORKHALI?

HOW CAN SUCH A KING WHO DO NOT TRUST HIS OWN STATESMEN OF THE COUNTY AND FIGHT WITH ALL OF THEM EITHER PUTTING THEM BEHIND THE BAR OR STRICKING WITHT THE GUN BY HIS SLAVE RNA?

HOW CAN SUCH A KING WHO CAN NOT BRING ALL DIFFERENT BELIEVES, FAITH, IDIOLOGIES TOGETHER, WHO CANNOT TALK WITH THE GROUP OF THE STATESMEN TOGETHER?

THIS IS NIGHTMARE OF GORKHALI AND GORKHALINESS. CURSE ON THEM BUT THE DOWN FOR THE DEMOCRACY IS INEVITABLE SOONER OR LATTER. FOOLS AND STUPID MAY NOT RULE LONGER ON EARTH.

JAI HIMAL

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It is same on Nepali who does not see Nepal is a FAILED NATION. When are we going to realize that this is TRUE? Even we do not see with our own eyes or it is hard for us to believe our own eyes, can we see from the International communities eyes?

The nation and the Nepali people are pushed to this situation not only because of the failure of Democratic institutions that supposed to uplift the nation but the cause goes back to the Gorkhali establishment of Shah and Rana that had washed the brain of Nepali with feudalistic life style and superstitious Hindu faiths of Frightening Mountain gods.

I absolutely support the Nepal blocked until and unless Democracy is restored with full human rights protections, civil rights and fundamental rights of people of Nepal.

Nothing can come before and against of human rights protection under the rule of law in a Democratic civil society; not even nationality or the sovereignty of the so called country with certain physical boundaries.

We Nepali have to learn and see the importance of human rights protections from the international communities observations and actions for innocent and poor Nepali people.

We must be ashamed not to ask questions and think firmly how can a nation be called a nation, which restricts the fundamental rights of people? How could we respect a leader or head of the state, who wish to cross our fundamental rights and freedom of speech? How can we trust our army whose very title is to protect the king (RNA) not people but torture, jail and kill with cold blood?

Nepal is going through civil war with the king and RNA wants to stop it without any political outlet. How could that be viable without the support of India and international communities? This sort of agendas has hopeless future for all Nepali people.

How could be there the existence of Nepal without the fundamental rights of people under the rule of law - a democratic process? This cannot be acceptable to the international communities and India.

If situation gets worst in six months - no political outlet to the Maoists conflicts, no restoration of Democracy, deterioration economics India will have to invade Nepal with army with the UN and international communities consensus.

Invasion of such sort will be necessary to protect a FAILED NATION.

NEPAL IS A FAIED NATION WHOSE HUMAN RIGHTS CONDITIONS ARE OF SUDAN.
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epal was more beautiful and it has still its enrichment its natural resources but not with the human resources that has been conditioned heavey within its brain cells to be absolute Gorkhali and enjoys it with the full flevor of gorkhaliness.

Poor Nepalis even do not bother to think for themselves but under the fear and threat follow the course and automatically kicks the one that opposes the superstitions and propaganda like of Feb 1 move of king G. Nepali people live in the midst of the beauty without knowing it its essence. To know essence you have to questions the authority that have made you beleive what they think for you believe.

Unless Nepali think for themselves and see how important is the fundamental rights for them there is no coming out from gorkhaliness to see how densely we are surrounded by the beauty of nature and its enreaching resources.
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IN DEMOCRACY IF YOU ABUSE THE POWER AS AN ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE PEOPLE HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO FILE CASE AT THE COURT OR HAVE PUBLIC DISPUTE OR INVESTIGATION ETC. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEMOCRACY AND MONARCHY OR ANY OTHER FORM OF DICTATORSHIP OR ONE PARTY CHINESE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT OR ANY TOTALITARIAN GOVERNMENT.

ANY SYSTEM OTHER THAN MULTIPARTY DEMOCRACY WILL GIVE DESPOTIC POWER TO THOSE WHO WORSHIP THE LEADER AND THEY WILL HAVE AMP OF OPPORTUNITY TO ABUSE THE POWER WITH PROPAGANDA AND FALSE PROMISES.

DESPOTISM BELONGS TO TRIBALISM AND TYRANTS ARE THE CHEIFS AND WAR LORDS WHO ENJOY IN KILLING AND SCARIN COMMON PEOPLE. UNDER THE THREAD OF FEAR THEY LOVE TO CONTROL THE TERROTORIES.

KING G AND HIS DEVOTED RNA, POLICE AND CIVIL SERVENTS LOVE TO DO THIS.

MAOISTS ARE THE TOTALITARIAN WAR LORDS. UNLIKE TRIBALISM THEY COME FROM COMMUNISM THAT SEPARATE PEOPLE FROM PREVILEGED AND WORKING CLASS - FARMERS AND LABOR. standforyourrights
04/06/2005

DO YOU HAVE A MIND TO READ THIS?
Do you've a mind to read this? If you have this will make you think for yourself and see the true picture of the political situation of Nepal, your mother land that you're so cocksure of king G Feb 1 move? Perhaps you can see in which shues you've been fitting yourself in with your gorkhaliness - selfish, fear stricken, stuborn average Gorkhalis.

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A Modest Proposal

The country has no choice but to explore the common middle ground. The press has to get down from its high horse too.

By Akhilesh Upadhyay


The symptoms of a country in a bind is perhaps best observed in the everyday conversation in the living rooms, in offices government and private, and indeed in the chiya pasals. February First, for a while, seemed to have radicalised the Nepalis like never before. There were some who cheered the King all too noisily (Radio Nepal each morning customarily celebrates the pro-King street rallies and those behind them). While there were others who characteristically jeered the royal move: ?Well, it was all writ large on the wall. You were a fool not to have seen this coming. The Armageddon is here.?

There is a real danger that the partisan debate can only get ever more polarized in the days ahead. This is a modest attempt at exploring a common middle ground.

To start with, since February First, yours truly has met countless people?bankers, university and school teachers, housewives, shop keepers, students, taxi drivers, restauranteurs?who seem more willing to give the King the benefit of the doubt compared to us journalists and the parties, perhaps two groups worst affected by the developments post-Feb. 1. To these groups, the royal takeover was always on the cards. It started for the parties in October 2002. The fate has now befallen the free press, still in its infancy. Already, the private press has seen some terrifying revenue losses and layoffs. But the worst perhaps is yet to come.

Unsurprisingly, ask any journalist or party worker, what the solution to the current crisis is and the answer is going to be simple: Let press freedom prevail, restore fundamental rights, reinstate the Parliament, and let, who else but, the parties rule. I belong to that group of democrats myself. Press freedom is dear to me (how else could I write this?) and I can?t imagine how I would continue enjoying my journalism without it. Without it, I also know for sure, the job of journalism would be a drag to scores of others who not only cherish their job as ?gatekeepers of news? but also their role as ?watchdogs.? Many of these are people I have worked with for more than 10 years and take their job extremely seriously?too seriously at times.

That explains the noise early this month when one of us (Kantipur daily?s editor Narayan Wagle) was summoned by the police to explain why his paper wrote what it wrote. And a week before that the commotion over Kanak Mani Dixit?s what turned out to be a five-hour detention. I penned a litany of grievances myself, right here on Kantipuronline (?To Free or Not to Free,? March 8), in defence of Kanak, and received some angry letters from the readers too. One letter was especially interesting, ?I somehow feel that Akhilesh has this very broad western ?democratic? perspective, though not so democratic when he chose a journalist to be his topic.? The letter then goes on: ?I seriously think he needs some refreshment course on what is democracy... that is so relative.?

Curiously, the letter in question echoes to some measure the conflict in my own mind as I grope for a narrative that would both address the democratic needs of the free press, even while giving enough space to contending viewpoints in the mass media.

Missing link

Admittedly, there has for some time been a hole in the media?s portrayal of the state of affairs in the country. In our single-minded focus to restore democracy, indeed an extremely legitimate concern, we perhaps seem to be missing a link or two. Are we, like the parties to some extent, in dissonance with the common man?s and woman?s aspirations? Are we in a denial over the state of affairs that we no longer live in normal times?

The nine-year-old Maoist insurgency has come far and it doesn?t need a rocket scientist to explain that we may soon face a possible collapse, or a state failure, to use a more commonly used expression. Do most Nepalis seriously believe that the political parties will do it right given another chance? So where do we go from here?

Let me start out with the media. We could definitely do with a dose of introspection over an important question: Did we contribute to the Maoist mayhem unknowingly; and just as importantly, have we contributed enough to bring the King and the parties together?two political forces whose synergy remains key if we are to avoid a possible catastrophe?

As for the parties, reforms within are a must. To be sure, Nepalis have had some issues with individual politicians, but they have eternal faith in democracy. In an opinion poll conducted by Interdisciplinary Analysts with ACNielsen before Feb. 1, only five percent of those polled stood for absolute monarchy; the same poll also found that only five percent don?t believe in monarchy. The poll sampled 3,059 respondents in 35 districts. The parties, however, are unlikely to capture popular imagination (recall their glory days post-1990?) without deep reforms and a language (and faces) that resonates with the masses.

PR debacle

But it is the Palace?that controls the reins since Feb. 1?which has to go on immediate overhaul. For starters, it will do well to realize that the only way it can wear down the Maoists is by having political parties on its side. There has been a lot of talk about the split in the CPN-Maoist, and Home Minister Dan Bahadur Shahi has gone on record to say that the split will play in the government?s favour. Not necessarily. If there is a vertical split in the party, there is every chance that the hardliners will prevail in one of the factions and the security situation may actually deteriorate amid warlord-ism and in the lack of moderation. Even Nepal?s staunchest allies who are aiding the counter-insurgency insist that it is not possible to score an outright military victory over the rebels. The Palace has to manage its PR better than rely on Tulsi Giri and ilk, who seem to be dismissive of everybody, including our foreign allies.

More than the military offensive, it is popular pressure that will ultimately push the rebels to the negotiating table and give the state an edge while negotiating with them. Legitimacy after all is at the heart of any insurgency and the moment it is gone, the grand Revolution degenerates into an unsustainable movement. Pol Pot?s meteoric rise and inglorious fall is a case in point.

This theory also applies to the Palace, however. It lost its first public relations battle post-Feb. 1, when it packed its new Cabinet with vestiges of the Panchayat regime.

But let?s give the new government its dues, at least as a resident of Kathmandu. The streets look cleaner, the traffic more orderly, the corrupt government officials and the ubiquitous dalals have vanished from Malpot, Kar Karyalaya and Yatayat Bewastha Bibhag. The garbage is collected on time and on a weekend trip to Godawari last Saturday, yours truly noted with some satisfaction that the park looked much cleaner.

But aid agencies also tell us that outside Kathmandu, a humanitarian crisis is looming. With the complete removal of political parties from the picture, the development workers have been left with very little space to function, squeezed between the two warring sides.

For now, the onus lies with the Palace. But in the long-term the parties, and the press as much, will do well to explore the reconciliatory middle ground. Honestly, as journalists we can?t totally absolve ourselves from the fact that we have consistently spewed anti-Palace vitriol. We got to get down from the high horse too.

http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=35411 standforyourrights
04/02/2005
Shame on Nepali who do not see Nepal is a Failed Nation.
Nepal was more beautiful and it has still its enrichment its natural resources but not with the human resources that has been conditioned heavey within its brain cells to be absolute Gorkhali and enjoys it with the full flevor of gorkhaliness.

Poor Nepalis even do not bother to think for themselves but under the fear and threat follow the course and automatically kicks the one that opposes the superstitions and propaganda like of Feb 1 move of king G. Nepali people live in the midst of the beauty without knowing it its essence. To know essence you have to questions the authority that have made you beleive what they think for you believe.

Unless Nepali think for themselves and see how important is the fundamental rights for them there is no coming out from gorkhaliness to see how densely we are surrounded by the beauty of nature and its enreaching resources. standforyourrights
04/02/2005
RAGE IN THE FACE OF A TRUE GORKHALI
Gorkhali-X - Here's my thought and I thinkg Tanka Dhakal is not only Gorkhali in my defination but also arrogant slave dog:

I am sure you understand what I mean by ?Gorkhali & Gorkhaliness?. I have half a dozen articles on sajha.com about it already posted. I also call Maoists of Nepal the Gorkhali and they have not transcended the gorkhaliness from their blood stream and brain waves. If they were they could have more creative strategies to tackle the basic human problems of Nepal ? food, shelter, clothing and literacy.

You see Sir it is very easy to be tyrant bully and scare others to death but it is hard to be civilized as humanly as possible ? meaning respect the freedom and existence of others whoever they are either your brothers or sisters or fellow citizens or your subjects etc.

Gorkhali and gorkhaliness with its history attached is opposed to the existence of others and their freedom. Only after the dawn of the Gorkhali administration in the Himalayan land of Nepal the caste system divided society. If you look the history before Shah dynasty and Rana oligarchy in Lischivi and Malla period there were no caste systems. You see the migration of Brahamin with Shah and Rana from India during the Mugal period, especially Aurangajeva change the civil lives of the people of Himalayan foothills. The original and centuries old settlement of Mongol and Khash where converted into caste systems of (so called) Hindu (For Hindu word does not exits in Veda or other Vedic literatures but is the word given to the inhabitance of Sindhagati in Persian word, just like India given by the English).

The intrusion of the new migration of Brahamins and ruling class have created this difficult socio-economic situation in Nepal which modern and ancient thoughts like Existentialism, Socialism, Capitalism, Buddhism and some Vedic schools of thought like Samkhay and Vedanta opposes. Because the very structure and institutions of Gorkhali governance and gorkhaliness restricted for centuries the unprivileged humans (deprived Nepali ? mostly farmers, women and untouchables) from the opportunities to prosperous and literate. The whole world has seen this, OK. This is the fundamental crisis of Nepal that has put us to this present situation.

This gorkhaliness are hidden in 40 percent of Nepali mostly among the middle class to the privileged class and in majority are the MEN ? gender male. It is a male dominated society like of wild animal in the jungle but at this point and time out of forty percent hardly five percent have transcended themselves and these individuals are intellectuals, journalists, human rights advocates, social workers and politicians.

To be honest I saw these forty percent gorkhaliness after the king G?s Feb 1st 2005 move more aggressively up front. Otherwise, how a human who has transcended from this dark human behavior of gorkhaliness will support the move which suspended the fundamental rights of people, freedom of speech, violated the protections of human rights, journalism and peaceful demonstration against the move? How such a human can support such a move which stand for ?blood for the blood? and does not believe in the national consensus and understanding for negotiations? How a transformed human can support such a move which disregards the international community?s stand for the restoration of the multiparty system in Nepal? It is only Gorkhali who will sucpport such a move not a human who see the light and hope in process of Democracy and thoughtful practice of the fundamental rights of people.

Therefore the Feb 1 move of king G and his Gorkhalis have put Nepal in a very unrespectable and degradable political situation. My word to all Gorkhali who supported the move of king G consciously or unconsciously that a king who does not trust his fellow politicians, his fellow journalists, his fellow intellectuals to have national consensus to resolve the Maoists problems or poverty, illiteracy, inequality and question of the fundamental freedom of people or sovereignty of people (now it is owned by the Gorkhali institution of Monarchy) can not resolve this problem with the point of gun. Violent for violent is not the way of the human evolution ? it is a Gorkhali dark ages strategy and it will fail.

Maoists are in the first place are humans and secondarily Nepali citizen. Despite they are also being Gorkhali with the demand of Communist Republic we cannot deal with them with the gun. They are not the terrorist but the rebel that international communities have also accepted (United States have put them in the watch of terrorist list). But America also has insisted on political negotiations with the defense strategies to protect the institutions of Democracy ? multiparty democracy.

To king G, G?s Gorkhalis and Maoists ? how many of you kill each other for all of you are Nepali brothers and sisters? How many of your fellow citizens you want to kill or jail because they oppose your move ? both king G?s and the Maoists?

If king G is a brain not of Gorkhali but of a human then he has only choice in this modern time that he must work together with the politicians, journalists, intellectuals, human rights advocates and international communities to resolve our national problem ? ?Poverty, illiteracy, inequality and question of the fundamental freedom of people or sovereignty of people (now it is owned by the Gorkhali institution of Monarchy)?

To king G and Gorkhali:

1.Poverty can never be resolved by equal distribution of the property such as land, gold and cash. But by educating your fellow citizens for skilled human resources.

2.Inequality also can never be resolved by having all your citizens well off. But providing them opportunity to grow and develop with freedom and industries.

3.You can never justify illiteracy and if you do you are Gorkhali and you think you are only the supreme to be worshipped by your wife and children if not by your neighbor. Nepal could have done a lot during Rana and Panchayat period if the Gorkhali rulers have not prevented the education to their parjas. We could have been as far as India in terms of human resources and professionalism. What makes a country prosperous not your property and money but the skilful human resources and professionalism?

4.You must give up your grip over the sovereignty that you think you possess it and was earned by your grandfather king Prithivi. The sovereignty lies solely on people then and there when they have complete freedom or fundamental of rights to rule by themselves for themselves under the rule of law in a Democratic society. If you are not a Gorkhali then you must help and let us manage our own home like the democratic king Tribhuban and Birendra did with trust and love. But you cannot treat us in this twenty first century like your own father the dictator and tyrant king Mahendra and tyrants Ranas.

If you think all Nepali from different walks of life are your fellow citizens then embrace with trust and love all and have dialogue with them without hidden plots and politics and also be compassionate to bring the Maoists in the mainstream of Nepali politics- in the multiparty Democratic process, institutionalizations and governance. Then we can say you are the Democratic king that deserves respect.
standforyourrights
04/01/2005
RAGE IN THE FACE OF A TRUE GORKHALI
If Tanka Dhakal, the slave of the Kalki avatara king G resists THE PEACE FULL DEMONSTRTION AGAINST THE FEB 1 2005 MOVE of king G then king G and his slaves Gorkhalis do not want Democracy in Nepal but the establishment of a dictatorship in the style of China one or two party system that can do what king G wishes to do so that his slaves can glorify.

Otherwise how can a peaceful demonstration against the Feb 1 move of king G undermine the so called Peace under the gun point. Dumb Gorkhali - how can Peace be established under the gun point in this 21st century next to the most populated democratic nation India?

GET THIS STRIEGHT GORKHALI:
PEACE CAN ONLY COME AND REACH TO THE HEARTH AND MIND OF THE POEPLE WITH MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING AND FREEDOM. NO PEACE CAN BE RESPECTED UNDER THE GUN POINT, UNDER THE THREAT AND FEAR DRIVEN PROPAGANDA AND CONTROL. standforyourrights
03/31/2005
RAGE IN THE FACE OF A TRUE GORKHALI
Minister Tanka Dhakal's RAGE on the Peaceful Demonstration of the political parties, journalists, Human rights advocates LOOKS LIKE THE TRUE FACE OF THE GORKHALI RAGE OF A SLAVE FULL OF GORKHALINESS IN HIS FACE.

KATHMANDU, March 31 - Information and Communication Minister Tanka Dahal on Thursday asked the political parties to choose between ?peace and terrorism? and warned that the government might enact tough laws against the parties should they continue to defy the government.
Dhakal termed the agitating parties irresponsible. He blamed the parties of carrying out street demonstrations ?instead of helping the government to resolve the Maoist crisis dogging the nation.?

?The political parties should stop their clandestine association with the Maoists and stop going abroad to incite foreign powers to suspend aid,? Dhakal told a press conference.

In an apparent reference to the recent coverage on Nepal in Indian media, Dhakal said ?the neighbouring country?s media was breaching the ethics of journalism by attempting to tarnish the image of the king.?

When asked if the government would lift the curb on press freedom placed since Feb. 1, Dhakal said that the government could do so, provided that the media doesn?t encourage the terrorist activities. (hb)

http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/POSTnew.CFM?forum=2 standforyourrights
03/31/2005
HAIL TO THE GLORY OF KING G!!
How happy king G looks with the foreign minster of China!! Glory to Thee! Glory to Gorkhalis and Gorkhalis of that poor land!! Glory to Gorkhalis os sajha.com!!!!

It seems this is a win win situation for the bully and bullies Gorkhalis with China. For China is the biggest BULLY and the DICTATOR of the World. Consequently, China has no history of Democracy and Chinese do not know what Democracy is like in their blood and brain streams. This is a historical fact that China had only dictators, tyrants and bullies - now bullies of communist party.

It is of course a great glory for king G and Gorkhalis to get inspired by China and chop the heads of the political leaders and followers of multiparty democracy in Nepal.

IF CHINA PREVAILS THE WISH OF KING G THERE IS A WIN WIN SITUATION IN NEPAL FOR GORKHALIS AND GREAT AGONY AND SUFFERING FOR THE LEADERS AND FOLLOWERS OF MULTIPARTY DEMOCRACY FOR A LONG PRERIOD OF TIME. standforyourrights
03/31/2005
NAY! NAY! HOPE NO MORE GORKHALI LORDS
Of course I would have appreciated the king G if he emergency in agreements with the political leaders of multiparty democracy to control and bring the Maoists to main stream. Since king G acted on his own with mandate of Gorkhalis and of their Gorkhaliness. However the present situation is not my glory or my agony and suffering.

Gorkhalis with thier Gorkhaliness who think what king G has done to Democracy and the political leaders is great and justified will soon have to celebrate and I am sure they are celebrating every evning throwing parties upon parties in Kathmandu, on sanjha.com and abroad!!!

What I think what king G has done to Democracy and the political leaders is not thing that will make me glorify and celebrate. This is to me the same old Gorkhali curse who do not tolerate the practice of Democracy - that stands for the civil rights, opposes the discrimination of caste, creed, sex and race and respects the judicial rights of people for equal opportunities.

Gorkhaliness is the attitude that tends to take immidiate glory and support on one who is apparently winning the race. In another words, who thinks under the fear and thread in support of bully and stones those who is under the threat in the detention or on the run to scape bully. In Nepali proverb - "ORALO LA GE KO MIRGA LAI LAKHEDNE".

Gorkhaliness has no moral stand or any self-respect for thoughts and philosophies that ponders the situation and takes no part on bully or tyrant. Because bullies and tyrants can not rule humans for a long periods of time. Tyrants and his aparant followers like Gorkhali have not foresighted vision or mercy. They see only the momentary "Peace and Pleasure".

Thus: Gorkhali glorify upon the sufferings and death of political leaders. And I am sure at this point and time Gorkhalis won't step back from eating the brains and hearts of all dead politicians.....GLORY OF THE MOMENT WITHOUT VISION IS THE GORKHALINESS.

Detained NC leader?s heath worsens
standforyourrights
03/31/2005
What religion do you call yourself?
If you can evolve from within and have become human - that is if you know from your heart that how to live together, help each other, love each other as humanly as you can; and know how important is the freedom to allow oneself to see, feel, speek, understand and think without FEAR of any known or unknown TYRANT then you do not need to have any religion of what so ever................. standforyourrights
03/30/2005
Why Democracy Fail in Nepal? Answer
You know I have been regularly seeing a dream again and again telling me that it is not the politicians nor the journalists nor the intellectuals nor the human righs advocates or the members of civil society are responsible for the FAILURE OF DEMOCRACY in Nepal.
I have been dreaming this way but you would not beleive the TRUTH of my dream.

My dream said that it is the Gorkhali Parja who hated the fundamental rights of people given to people of Nepal by the popular king Birendra - that thought and feeling failed the Democracy in Nepal. These Gorkhali parja are those educated or sami-educated but they belong to privilleged of Gorkhali regime. These people really knocked down the Democracy.

Now they are so happy that so called corrupt politicians are in detension and they can have jolly good time in Nepal and Sajha.com

These people failed the democracy. I was thinking only king G did it but he has a mass of Gorkhali praja with him in RNA, civil servents, their sons and daughters in abroad - educated or sami-educated, selfish, superstitious and cunning to cheat on rest of poor Nepali people. standforyourrights
03/30/2005
Shame on Nepali who do not see Nepal is a Failed Nation.
Durga Prasad YOU KISS MY ASS, OK

YOU MORAN GORKHALI SLAVE WHO NOT THINK TO WORSHIP STONE FOR THE GOD?

FOR YOU TO WORSHIP KALKI AVATARA IS A BIG DEAL AND YOU DO NOT CARE HUMAN RIGHTS OF POOR WHO ARE KILLED BY YOUR ARMY IN THE VILLAGE FOR NOTHING.

YOU DO NOT CARE TO THINK THAT ALL POLITICIANS ARE NOT CORRUPT; ALL JOURNALISTS ARE NOT ADVOCATES OF PROPAGANDA.

THE WAY YOU GET RAGED IS CALLED MORAN GORKHALI

NEPAL SUFFERS NOT BECAUSE OF POLITICIANS AND JOURNALISTS IN THE DETENSION BUT JACK ASS LIKE YOU WHO SUPPORT KING G FOR SHIT....

YOU KISS MY ASS AGAIN
The King of Nepal
This not only the stage work of a murder but the framework of a cartel of drug. If you have ever paid the visit of a RNA officer's home, you will see how luxuriously he lives with his wife! He gets one PIPA for his wife and her PETICOAT washing!

How could they can afford such luxurios living in the poor of the poorest countries in the world?

The answer is the framework of drug cartel the prince G then? RNA was and still involved in the drug trafficing for drug lords of the world. If this book and stories has some link with this truth then it makes sense. Otherwise vocus story book.

Prince G then was in the drug cartel list of the INTERPOLL and King Birendra wanted to investigate the information that some member of the Royal family is involve in the international drug trafficing. This message was passed to King Birenda. Also, the King Birendra wanted Parus to face the justice for the puplic morder that he had committed.

THE TRUTH IS THAT IT IS LONG WAY TO GO FOR NEPAL AND NEPALESE WHO LOVE THE BEAUTY OF THIER COUNTRY WITH HIMALAYAS TO FIND JUSTICE AND ESTABLISH DEMOCRACY THAT CAN SEE THE TRUTH TRANSPARENTLY.

THE CURSE THAT NEPAL HAVE FROM HER PAST HISTORY THAT IT IS VERY HARD FOR HER TO FIND CLEAN AND LOVING KING LIKE BIRENDA ANYMORE. CLEAN AND PURE HAERTED STATESMEN IN NEPAL ALWAYS GET MORDERED BY THE ARMY.

IT IS TRUE THAT RNA COULD NOT PROTECT OUR BELOVED KING BIRENDA AND HIS FAMILY FROM THE TYRANT DICTATOR MURDER PRINCE G AND HIS SON PARAS THE MONSTER.


 
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Hotstuff Sir: You have posted all his threads and responses to other threats. But you are missing his some of the threads (unfortunately I cannot find them now on sajha) in which he points out about the post Mogul Nepal. One of the most popular periods Pali, Lischivi,and Malla period. Also because of the existence of these period's developments in art, literature, philosophy (Buddha?s), religions etc we had the privilege to become the member of UN.

According to STANDFORYOURRITHS that the migration from India after the Mogul period - mostly of Indian higher caste group like Brahmins and Thakuris or rulers destroyed the essence of the Nepal with Hindu style rules and caste system imposed on original group of Nepali people such as Newara, Rai, Limbu, Tamang, Magar, Tharus, and Kash (a western Nepal farming group belong to the Cocas ion migration through Kashmir and Central Asia ). All these original people were put on the Baisaya caste after Mugal period. It is historically true that during Malla and Lischivi period there were no caste system in Nepal.

The occupation by Hindu migration after Mugal period, have drastically changed with the rulers tactics and Brahmins religious practice. The Hindu religion in Nepal is more based on sacrifice and worships, not in inquiry and wisdom like in Gita, Vedas, Upanisada or six schools of thoughts or Buddhism. This points of STANDFORYOURRIGHTS has a lot of facts and reflects reality. For example, Sukraraj Shastri one of the martyrs of Democracy was put to death by Rana regime was based on the fact that he was spreading the study of Gita in the light of Democracy. Gita was forbidden by the propaganda that "If you read Gita you become MAD". Because Gita speaks of the fundamental freedom "Mokshaya" from all ignorance.

The style of Shah or other rules after Mugal period and of Rana oligarchy was to put Nepali people in fear with superstitions and belief. This was the strategies that rules had compromised with the learned Brahmins of Nepal - the higher caste Brahmins. You know among Brahmins there are upper and lower castes in Nepal - Purbiya, Kumau, Jaisi. Upper class do not work on the farms; rather do not plough the land. Only Jaisi do among Brahmins. Same Thakuri do not plough the lands. Now you can see the picture of Nepal and how we were made "Gorkhali" in the word of STANDFORYOURRIGHTS.

STANDFORRIGHTS says if you are not aware of this process which is embedded within the psyche of Nepali people for last five centuries after acquiring some education in this 21st century then you are the slave of "GORKHALINESS".

It is saying in the society of Kash mostly in the Himalayan foot hills of Western Nepal that "Gorkhali ko bani lauro hali jeuri garnaya". Meaning Gorkhali causes trouble for nothing. Gorkhali here means the rulers like Rana and Shah and their police, army and civil servents. You can still find this concept in Jumla, Humla, Bajura, Bajhang and Mugu.

The Gorkhali, I am not sure STANDFORYOURRIGHTS does not mean to the fame and name of Gorkha regiments of Britain and India. As a matter of fact the essence of Nepal after Mogul period with the invasions of Hindus upper castes from India destroyed. For example, all the original Nepali like Kash, Newar, Magar, Tamang, Rai, Limbu etc were put to the lower caste that will do the farming and rest of the work.

In my opinion for this difference to irradiate you do not the revolution of Maoists. Perhaps the Maoists do not address this honestly. Otherwise they could not have committed human rights abuse. We Nepali had our fundamental rights before the Upper caste Hindus from India. Once the rulers like Shah and Rana took over Nepal we lost our fundamental rights. That has been our struggle for last 60 years.

Among these rules we had only two Democratic kings - Tribhuvan and Birendra. Rest of them then and now do not want Nepali people have their fundamental rights and institutions of Democracy.

Therefore those who see the difference and stand for their rights according to STANDFORYOURRIGHTS are true Nepali and deserve respects. Rests are confused and frightened to see the light that can show the difference.

Sorry HOTSTUFF Sir if I make you feel no good with my comments. But I think the approach and language of STANDFORYOURRIGHTS are rude and impolite. I think sajha should prevent such language or prevent such participants from thread. However sometimes we can learn from bitter expression also. If not other but I do.

 


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