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bibas100
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Posted on 06-21-06 3:40
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Some of you might have already read the news but I felt sad that mob rule is growing in Nepal. Reportedly some locals beat up Bharat Keshar Singh, a close aide to King Gyanendra over the issue of an accident. Here is what I feel about it... Democracy seems to have taken its ground but with it has come the anarchy in the country. Rule of law has not been respected in the country and most issues are being settled through violence in Nepal. The beating of Bharat Keshar Singh is just another example. According to Kantipur Online, hundreds of people flocked around Lainchaur and beat Bharat Keshar and torched his vehicle on fire reportedly for his mishandling of a motorcycle owner. Kantipur online(www.kantipuronline.com, June 21) writes: Locals at Lainchaur on Tuesday evening beat up president of World Hindu Federation Bharat Keshar Singh and his two sons-Ajaya Keshar and Ananta Keshar. The enraged locals also torched their Toyota Corolla car, registration number Ba 1 Cha 6689. It says that the scuffle began when Bharat Keshar's car hit a motorcycle parked in front of the Malla Hotel in Lainchaur. Though the media has potrayed it in a one-sided way, I guess both the parties must have had some part to play in the accident. Reportedly Keshar started to scold the motorcycle owner on the issue of the accident. Yet, only the two parties involved know the truth. The attack on Keshar was a sign of growing mob rule prevailing in Nepal. It is reported that the students of ASCOL were involved in the attack against Bharat Keshar. They even torched his vehicle on fire. I do not approve of violent means of getting to the justice. We have to rely ourselves on the rule of law if we are to live in a civilized world. Otherwise, we will be no different to Iraq where one might kill others at any time. The government has a daunting task of not going against the people and yet trying to run the country based on the rule of law. Will it be successful? There have been doubts cast over the success of the government in maintaining law and order in the country specially in the new scenario where people have been encouraged by the success of their(relatively) violent protests in bringing down the King. This is a time when people feel that they can do anything and everything. We need to restrain ourselves from going against the law. If Keshar Singh did wrong, we should bring him to justice through the courts. Why are the courts created anyway? I have this growing fear that we might end up inviting anarchy in the country. There should not be violent means against those who do not subscribe to what we believe. In democracy, everyone gets the opportunity to hear and to get heard. And, basically that is the true democracy we want. We want to co-exist together with all the fellow Nepalese. Guilty should be punished but through the law. What do you people think? source: http://dreamnepal.wordpress.com
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Posted on 06-23-06 9:43
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IMI i have been reading all your posts in most of the threads and you always claim you don't talk judjemental and think rationally...well what to say.its ..every body thinks that way.. and about this bharat keshri thing..you seems to be defending bharat keshri from your writing..you are blaming hooligans...from the eyewitness its bharat keshri family to start hitting that sherpa....yeahh hooligans are also lawless..but if that bharat keshri family is so much in law why can't they call police instead of hitting that sherpa..bullsht...they are the one to start.....first bharat kehshri is to blame for starting fight by taking law in their hand..
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Posted on 06-23-06 10:00
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The culture of intimidations & voilence has escalated in recent times in Nepal.Even a minor road would turned into a mob fury. Why the vehicles being torched almost everyday even with a very small incident ? Why are people encouraged to destroy their nation's property?? The country is lawless.Moaist, Police and Army(all) are free to kill whoever they like.They don't have to give any explanation.No-one got punished for these atrocities. Nepalese people should be concerned with these acts and voiced against taking law into ones' hand rather than being involved into it. So called Anti-Mandales are arguing that People should take the law into their hand and hang these culprits(Royalist). These students have been driven by SPA-M, they can't decide what is good and what is bad for our country.If they can't control intimidation and voilence, atlest they should not encourage people to act insanely.
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Posted on 06-23-06 2:32
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SS47k, My friend .thanks for reading my threads and post.I am not defending Bharta kesar .i am against holigan attitude of his sons as well as 3000 holligans.We need to have good culture.The mistakes could have been any one or the person in the situation could be anyone .If you know what i am saying.Just look at the incidents of the two hospitals couple of weeks ago.Doctors were beaten .how can we control mob mentality? We need to make democracy more transparent so people in power cannot abuse it.It is not good idea to support or incourage this kind of ridiculous behaviour of anyone!
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sajhauser
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Posted on 06-23-06 2:55
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How is democracy going to be transparent??? please bless us with your views.
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sajhauser
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Posted on 06-23-06 2:56
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My previous post was for ImI
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Posted on 06-23-06 3:14
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ImI, As much i enjoy reading your threads, as much i see that u contradict urself. I understand ur point of mob ruling and recent mob driven politics in nepal. But i wish u would have started ur opinion with three royalists or the fundamentalists beating up one guy in public regardless of the thread. If u would have started ur thread with the first wrongness that started the mob act, i think ur views would have been more impartial. But u chose to pick one incident out of the whole story that u disagreed on and kept focusing on that. U could be very impartial and non judgemental but when u just look at one side of the story it makes u sound like u are one of them. And may be thats the reason why almost everyone is disagreing with u here.
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Arya
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Posted on 06-23-06 3:36
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All, If roughing up/beating the sherpa dude is senseless, 3000 people roughing up 3 people is horrendous. Let me explain this: In Nepal, for a lot many years now, if there is an accident, it is ALWAYS by default the fault of the bigger vehicle. Makes sense? not, not to me either...The general conception is, since you won/drive a car, you better claim responsibility. Have you ever noticed the way these motor cycle walas drive around in Nepal? they are teh most reckless of the lot. I don't think educated ppl like Singh and Sons together would have thrashed one guy. I can vouch for their common sense on this one. I don't believe the Sherpa dude was beaten up only because his bike hit the car, i'm sure he provoked them with foul language and such- he cannot be entirely innocent and victimise himself- i've dealt with the likes of him myself before. The main issue here is teh college going kids in Nepal- they are too involved in things outside of books- who gives the mob right to lynch people, even if they did beat up that dude to throw themselves, all 3000 of them at three guys? could they not have informed police? what was the need to get physical? have you ever heard of such happening here or in any other civilized society? if any of you were among that crowd, would you have also joined the force to beat up those three men? and why are you constantly terming these people king's men? i think most of the anger is vented out because of the fact that he is associated with the king- is that a fair deal? is that an educated statement? set aside the king connection, stop assuming, and don't behave like the mob back in Lainchaur- teh problem is teh younger generation of Nepal who instead of changing the face of society for the better, out to butcher what used to be a very civil society. Let us talk about making Nepal a better place to live and move around in instead of hailing what teh mob did the other day- surely there was a better way of handling the incident the other day.
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ImI
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Posted on 06-23-06 3:56
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Sidster , thanks for reminding .Please read carefully what i wrote in all the posts in this thread.I have never said that bharat kesar is not responsible or not to be blamed of.Time after time you guys(may be not you )praising the incident that mob beating a person might have sounded i have been taking royalist side.But that is not true .fault could be of anybody but beating a person like that.com'on man .give a break.Did his son took the guys eyes out or burn the motor bike.i am not giving justification on thier part.Look at the magnitude of violence.you may agrue , who then started it.Yes, Bhart kisar and his son started it!! are they bad ?Yes they are.Should they desrve punishment by law ?.ofcourse yes they do.So go to the law don't take law in your hand. if somebody kills your fren are you going to kill that person too??? Ok Sajah user , how do we make democracy transparent? 1. Rule of law is above anybody be it king or PM or HOR. 2. Fair trail to all 3. No corruption in every aspect as well as in police and court. 4. Increase the punishment , if found guilty of corruption or manipulation .corruption = all forms of corruption. 5.Accidents such as this happens in country where and when people don't obey traffic laws properly.Increase awareness and strict traffic law enforcement. It takes time but process should start now!!! raise awareness and
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Posted on 06-23-06 4:08
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good thinking arya. I am with you.
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Arya
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Posted on 06-23-06 4:09
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I second ImI. A very educated opinion indeed.
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ss74k
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Posted on 06-24-06 9:02
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Probe gives clean chit to Inspector Timilsina, finds Bharat Keshar guilty By Jitendra Sah KATHMANDU, June 24 - The probe committee formed to investigate the Bharat Keshar Singh case Saturday gave a clean chit to Police Inspector Aabhushan Timilsina of Durbarmarg Police Station. The investigation committee headed by Deputy Inspector General of Police (DIG), Ravi Shrestha today concluded that Inspector Timilsina had committed no mistakes during the incident. The report has identified Singh, his two sons and daughter-in-law guilty in the incident and also asked the police authorities to take necessary action against them as per the existing laws. The report said further loss to public property was controlled due to the restraint shown by the locals after police requests. Meanwhile, Sherpa said he was happy with the report of the probe committee. "I am hopeful that I will get justice," Sherpa, who reportedly received death threats from Singh's men, told eKantipur today. The committee also submitted the detailed report to the acting Inspector General of Police, Om Bikram Rana. Inspector Timilsina today rejoined his office after receiving directions from acting IGP Rana. Timilsina was taken to District Police Office, Kathmandu, Hanumandhoka on Wednesday where he was questioned about the delay in reaching the incident site and the inability of the police to bring the situation under control and about the need to handcuff Singh. Earlier on Tuesday evening, angry locals of Lainchaur had beaten up Singh and his two sons in the scuffle that erupted after Singh's car hit a local Angdawa Sherpa's motorcycle in front of the Hotel Malla. The angry people had also torched Singh's car. Timilsina, the inspector of Durbarmargh Police Station, who was at the incident site with his team, was later taken to Hanumandhoka for questioning http://kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=77663
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ImI
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Posted on 06-24-06 9:54
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GOOD ss47k, you should be happy!!justice has been done!! If that is fair and true.Or if it might be to clam down the protesting student.Again i am not favoring Shah .its good that they are guilty but like i said there are always two sides of the coin.And in Nepal , there is one invisible side /force that people just don't seem to get it!! The reason i am telling this is because:our legal and judicial system is not strong enough.It has been manipulated time after time.By people in power.Well in time of King .it used to favor king and his chamachas, in time of SPA it gave clean chits to corrupt politician .I wonder will there even be any law remaining or law will be anything that comes out of Prachanda's mouth in future.(if this jack A$$ comes to power). well , i think now that they have been found guilty students of TC ,ASCOL should go back to classes and read make their future and future of country .Not pollute cities with burning tires.I just seem to get this why Nepalese students are so active in politics?why can't they be more focused on studies?
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Posted on 06-24-06 10:32
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ImI, Your point about transparent democracy sounds all good. But who is going to implement the law if the govt itself is corrupted??? There has to be some 'fear factor' that makes the govt do right thing. Previously, there had been no 'fear factor' thats why there was no justice.
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Posted on 06-24-06 10:50
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Had this incident been 2 yrs ago or maybe less than that, the royalist wouldn't have had any consequences. and the sherpa would have been in jail or would have said that "It was my fault" to the media even if it wasn't his.
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Posted on 06-25-06 11:03
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भरतकेशर समूहले माफी माग्यो जितेन्द्र साह काठमाडौं, असार ११ - मोटरसाइकल ठक्कर र कुटपिटको आरोप लागेका भरतकेशर सिंह परिवारले आइतबार पीडित पक्षसँग माफी माग्दै क्षतिपूर्ति दिएका छन् । लैनचौरस्थित अमृत साइन्स क्याम्पस नजिकै गत मंगलबार मानार्थ शाही पाश्र्ववर्ती एवं विश्व हिन्दु महासंघ अध्यक्ष भरतकेशरले चलाएको कारले मोटरसाइकल चालक आङदाबा शेर्पालाई ठक्कर दिएको थियो । ठक्करपछि उल्टै सिंह, कारमा सवार उनका दुई छोराहरू र बुहारीले गालीगलौज गर्दै शेर्पालाई कुटपिट गरेका थिए । काठमाडौं प्रहरी प्रमुख एसपी ढकबहादुर कार्कीको कार्यकक्षमा लामो छलफलपछि दुवै पक्षबीच सहमति भएको थियो । सहमतिअनुसार दोषी पक्षले तत्काल शेर्पालाई उपचार खर्चबापत ५ हजार रुपैयाँ नगद दिएका थिए । उनीहरूले क्षतिग्रस्त मोटरसाइकलको मर्मतको सम्पूर्ण खर्च बेहोनर्ेे बताएका थिए । घटनामा संलग्न सिंहका माहिला छोरा अभय र कान्छो अनन्त एवं पीडित आङदाबा शेर्पाले मिलापत्रमा समेत हस्ताक्षर गरे । 'फेरि यस्तो घटना नदोहोरिने, एकअर्काको जीउधनमा क्षति नपुर्याउने, कतै उजुर/बाजुर नगर्ने, आपसमा वैमनस्यता नराख्ने र एकले अर्कालाई सहयोगी भावनाले हेर्ने' मिलापत्रमा उल्लेख छ । मिलापत्र क्रममा सिंहका जेठा छोरा अमर, एक वकिल एवं शेर्पाका दाइ र भतिज उपस्थित थिए । छानबिन समितिका प्रतिवेदनअनुरूप घटनामा सहयोगी भूमिका निभाउने भरतकेशर र अनन्तकी श्रीमती ज्योति भने उपस्थित भएका थिएनन् । छाउनीस्थित वीरेन्द्र सैनिक अस्पतालमा उपचार गराइरहेका भरतकेशरको स्वास्थ्य अवस्था राम्रो नरहेको र बुहारी ज्योतिले दुवै पक्षबीच हुने सहमति आफूलाई स्वीकार्य हुने भन्दै छलफलमा उपस्थित नभएको जनाइएको छ । मुख्य दोषी दाजुभाइले हात मिलाएर शेर्पासँग माफी मागेका थिए । मोटरसाइकल ठक्कर र चालक कुटपिट गरेको अभियोगमा सिंह, उनका छोरा र बुहारीलाई पीडित पक्षका मागबमोजिम कारबाही चलाउन प्रहरी कार्यालयलाई शनिबार छानबिन समितिले निर्देशन दिएको थियो । शेर्पाले सिंह परिवारविरुद्ध बिहीबार प्रहरीमा उजुरी दिएका थिए । साथै हतकडी लगाएको आरोपमा कारबाहीमा परेका दरबारमार्गका प्रहरी निरीक्षक आभूषण तिमिल्सिनालाई समितिले सफाइ दिएको थियो । 'उनीहरूले गल्ती स्वीकार गरी माफी मागे, त्यही नै ठूलो कुरा हो,' सहमतिपछि शेर्पाले भने http://kantipuronline.com/kolnepalinews.php?&nid=77785
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Amrikane
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Posted on 06-26-06 8:11
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It looks funny.
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http://www.blog.com.np/united-we-blog/2006/06/25/misadventure-of-bharat-keshar-and-heroic-policing-of-timilsina/ Quote of the Year “If you can handcuff a person who has become the prime minister of this country twice, why can’t you do the same to [people like] Bharat Keshar? The situation wasn’t such that police could disperse the crowd by charging lathis and firing shots. If we had done so, 15-20 people would have been killed and Hotal Malla would have been burnt to ashes.†Police Inspector Abhushan Timilsina Update: Finally, Bharat Keshar Singh and his gang has realized the mistake and apologized to Aang Dawa Sherpa. Both sides reached an agreement on Sunday (June 25) in the offices of Kathmandu Police Chief Dhak Bahadur Karki. Singh’s side paid compensation of Rs.. 5 thousands to Sherpa and promised to cover all expenses needed for the maintainance of the bike. Singh’s two sons- second Avaya and youngest Ananta- who were involved in the attack signed the agreement paper. Singh’s first son Amar, a lawyer for the family and tow relatives of Sherpa were present in the Police office. Bharat Keshar didn’t appear as he was reportedely undergoing treatment in Birendra Sainik Hospital. Ananta’s wife who provoked the men to beat Sherpa was also not present. Both the brothers said sorry and shaked hands with Sherpa. “They realized their mistake and said sorry,†Sherpa said. “That’s the important thing.â€
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Posted on 06-26-06 12:17
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One and Only Word is "MANDALE"
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sajhauser
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Posted on 06-26-06 12:23
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I'm glad that thing are turning out very good in nepal. People are deciding the fate of people. That's true democracy. And the oppressors shall be punished...he ha ha ha ha ha....
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Mike Bibby
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Posted on 06-26-06 12:33
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Does anyone still has that YUTUBE video where this guy Bharat Keshar is all excited to tell the world the false story can someone post a pic from that video so we can do "PHARAK CHUTTAU' betwenn Bharat Keshar's old pic where he is General and and the new one where he is a handcuffed.
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