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AznshawtY
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Posted on 01-16-07 9:53
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A doctor in Michigan has a sister who lives in California but the sister does not have any brother that lives in Michigan, how come?? :P
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republican
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Posted on 01-17-07 11:12
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Back to the 60 L container question. -------------- Slackdemic's solution: 1. Pour the mixture from the original container (60 L) to 7 L container and transfer that 7 L to 43 L container. Repeat it. At this point, the 43 L container has 14 L of oil. 2. Now, the trickiest part: Pour the oil from the original container to 11 L container. And, pour the 11 L container, which is full, to 7 L container. Now the 11 L container has 4 L oil (11-7=4). 3.Pour that 4 L water to the 43 L container where there is already 14 L of oil. Now it is altogether 18 L of oil in 43 L container. 4. Repeat step #2 three more times, which will result in 12 L of oil (4*3=12)!!! So altogether 18 + 12 = 30 L of oil in 43 L Container. And, at the same time 30 L of water is left in the original 60 L container. ------------------- I thought you had got it right at first glance. But then I got suspicious because your solution has no need for the 43 L container. I couldn't figure out where the flaw was in your solution for a while, but I do now. You cannot repeat steps 2 & 3 three times as you have suggested. Let's say you did it one more time and added 4 L of oil to the 43 L container. Now you have 22 L of oil there. You pour the 7L of oil back into the original container, which now has 30L water and 8L oil. What next? When you repeat step 2 again, you have 8 L of oil and 3 L of water in the 11 L container. When you pour that into the 7L container.. you have 1 L of oil and 3L of water left - NOT 4 L of oil. Still trying to work out the solution.
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hetterika!!
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Posted on 01-17-07 11:15
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Ritthe, haven't tried Einstein one- this one is enough for now... back to work time :(, will try later
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ritthe_jasus
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Posted on 01-17-07 11:17
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republican that has laready been solved my juggy i think ....... try other one posted few threads above and the one if einstien
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republican
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Posted on 01-17-07 11:28
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I think I've worked it out! But I still don't understand why the 43L container is there, could there be a shorter/better solution? Basically I've used a combination of 7s and 11s that add up to 30 : 11 + 11 + 11 + 11 - 7 - 7 = 30 So 1. Pour from 60L to 11L and then to 43L container - you have 11 liters oil in the 43L container now. 2. Pour from 60L to 11L and then to 43L container again - now you have 22 liters oil in the 43L container. 3. Now pour from 43L to 7L to 60L container - you have 15 liters oil in the 43L container. 4. Again, pour from 43L to 7L to 60L container - you have 8 liters of oil in the 43L container. That means you have 22 liters of oil in the 60L container now. Repeat step 1 twice (pour 11 liters twice into the 43L container) and you have 30L oil in the 43L container.
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republican
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Posted on 01-17-07 11:32
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ritthe, juggy's solution used a non-existent "bottom" of the container :) I tried to solve it without assuming that.
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timetraveller
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Posted on 01-17-07 11:38
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wuts up azn, long time no see.....
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ab_belial
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Posted on 01-17-07 12:31
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sadbut true i need the answers from you...for the math test..
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republican
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Posted on 01-18-07 8:27
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Here's one: You have two containers of the same size - one is filled with milk and the other is filled with the exact same amount of water. Let's say Container A has milk and Container B has water. You take one cup of milk from Container A and mix it in Container B. Then you take one cup of the milk/water mixture in Container B and mix it in Container A. Considering that milk and water is evenly distributed when mixed, does Container A have more water or does Container B have more milk?
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Juggy
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Posted on 01-18-07 8:34
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.hehe Republican!! I agree to disagree with my solution, But It seems Paradox has already solved that one up there!! I tried to elaborate his solution though!! But it is good to see you using your brain too!! Brain damage it is!! and republican can u be more clearer!! The Container A has milk and Container B has water. But were they completely full??...:S..:S Have a good one everyone!!..:)
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hetterika!!
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Posted on 01-18-07 8:47
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Republican, Container A water=Container B milk right??
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Slackdemic
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Posted on 01-18-07 7:58
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Brilliantly done, Republican! I admire your logic! :) Yes, the same night I thought I solved the riddle, I asked one of my friends if she could solve it, and when trying to explain how it could be solved, I found I was mistaken myself. Yes, until third step, it works okay, then it doesn't. Well, you did it, now I don't see the necessity of doing it another way, if there is. Also, I am still confused what is the necessity of 43L jar; any big jar just works fine, innit? I even haven't read the other question posted by you; I will try to do it if it is interesting. :)
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republican
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Posted on 01-18-07 8:57
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juggy, the containers are not full but the amount of milk in A and water in B are equal. hetterika, you could be right : ) i'd like to see the logic behind it though, that's the interesting part, isn't it? slackdemic, i think the 43L is just to throw you off a little.. maybe the solution would be easier if it was any other amount. Or if the question said "any big jar", you'd probably be able to find the answer sooner.
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ritthe_jasus
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Posted on 01-18-07 9:22
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if the containers contained exaclty a cupfull of liquid, the concentration of the milk will be equal in both containers but if the volume was more than a cupfull, the concentration of the milk will be more in the container which contained milk initally when the process was started.
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ritthe_jasus
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Posted on 01-18-07 9:34
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12 – 12 = 12 – 12 (1 + 1) (1 – 1) = (1 – 1) (1 + 1) = 1 2 = 1 Why is it not possible?
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ritthe_jasus
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Posted on 01-18-07 9:35
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they r not 12, 1 raised to power 2, 1^2
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ratamakai
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Posted on 01-18-07 9:40
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the concentration of milk in A would be greater because you are mixing some milk (that went from A to B, and taking a part of it back to A) to a lower amount in A. so what i think is if you are talking about the amount, it would be tha same as in your question but if it is to do with the concentration, there would be a difference (the other way round in your question). just a try hai.
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ratamakai
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Posted on 01-18-07 9:43
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ritthe in your third line, you cannot have 1 on your RHS
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ritthe_jasus
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Posted on 01-18-07 9:48
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ratamakai, (1 - 1) in both sides cancel each other thats why 1 there.
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bgoreus
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Posted on 01-18-07 9:49
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Doctor in Michigan has a sister in california, sister means nurse. But the sister has no brother. Doctor is not her brother. Simple.
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ratamakai
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Posted on 01-18-07 9:52
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no (1-1) is 0 and you cannot cancel two zeros, a zero canceled (or divided lets say) by another zero is never 1
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