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babajee
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Posted on 02-05-05 2:56
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Sorry, it?s a abrupt start. Actually I had written this for another thread but changed my mind so started a new thread which is crapy. There isn't any genuine thought for Gyanendra to do all this for the people of nepal.He wanted to build a powerful monarch , which had lost its power and wealth in the course of democracy,so that when he dies his murderer son will have a strong monarch. Gyanendra has made the same mistake which his Father made. If his father mahendra had not sacked the first elected government of nepal in 20016, our democracy would have come a long way and we could have seen stronger nepal not the monarch, by this time. we are unfortunate like pakistanis who never had A SYSTEM OF GOVERNING. AND, we all know that the best way of governing is the democracy. I have question for friends who POst their ideas supporting gyanendra's move, when you are supporting gyanendra's move you are supporting a autocratic sytem of governing, that means you believe in autocratic system of governing, then, why do you think you are in a foreign land where there is democratic way of governing? YOu know the answer coz you have better life out here than what you had in nepal.Why do you think nepal did not have a better life? coz , we are told that we are born inferior than some people. thats not true. Every human are created equal and he/she is the only ruler of themself . Talk about the countries where we nepalese like to migrate are those countries where there had been democracatic way of governing for long period of time. We just had two decades of democracy, altogether. Which was shadowed by the ranas in early 2007 and then dismantled by monarch in second democratic period. Lets think a long way not just at this moment. Lets not live like a chamcha but like a leader where your ideas are respected. Each of us is a great soul and we deserve to take our own decision. I think at this time when we all are heated up up for supporting Gyanendra or Maoist. These both are the autocratic system of governing. we should not be( but we have own freedom) divided between mao or gyanendra. the thing is, whether we want a democratic system of governing or a autocratic way of governing. Whether we support King Gyanendra or Maoist doctrine, we are supporting the same thing, the Autocratic way of governing. The doctrine given by Mao five decades ago does not apply in this modern world and the concept of ruling a country under censorship does not fit either. It's not give Gyanendra a chance but lets have faith in democratic way of governing . It does go through a lot of HIT AND TRIAL methods but eventually it will bring a new dawn. Love you all. triratna
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Posted on 02-07-05 7:35
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How about GPS? G - Girija ( Crook and terrorist from Nepali Congress Party ) P - Paras ( Crook from Royal Family, 100% Can not be King ) S - Surya Bahadur ( Criminal - Killer of Nepal Prajatanra party )
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Posted on 02-07-05 7:56
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yeso kasto hola G------ gyane + girija + gachhadar B.----- Bamdev S----- Surye GBS--------- Gyane bikram Shah
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Posted on 02-07-05 8:13
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Hey i GOt one.... F = **** A = *** N = ***** T = ***** A = ***** Pease ;0ut
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Posted on 02-07-05 8:29
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Mahakaal !! I like your aggressiveness. In reality, it seems true. Bastav ma Nepal ko udaya dekhi nai Bahun jati politics, judiciary, school, universities, ra beurocratic office haru ma rahi aayekaa chhan. Uniharu bolne kaam ma ra rajya byabastha ko kutnaitik kaam ma agadhi dekhinchhan. Bahun ko lagattai pachhi Kschhetri haru le tyo thaun ogateko chha. Ra, Nepal ma Bahun-Kschhetri Milera around 50% population wogatekaa pani chhan. Tyastai, Newar haru dherai jaso banda-byapaar ra byabasaya ma laageka chhan. Tyasaile, Nepal ma dhani mani sahu haru Newar haru chhan. Aba Gurung, Magar, Rai, Limbu Shahi Nepali Sena Ma chhan. Jo Nepal ko Shakti lai pratyaksya haat ma liyera baseko chha. Sayad bahun haru lai Shahi Nepali Sena ma bharti garera, ahile shahi nepali sena ma bhayeka haru lai bahun le wogateko thaun dine ho ki??? Raja ko puret ma chahin biswokarma haru raakhnu parlaa. Sahu mahajan newar haru lai jumla-humla lakhetera jumla-humla ka manchhe lai sahu-mahajan banaunu parla. Tara, je jasto gare pani sabai jana ek chahin hunu parchha. Desh ko kuro ma ke bahun, ke kschhetri, ke baishya, ke shudra, ke raja, ke praja. Yedi ek aapas ma jhagada garne ho bhane purba ma 22 se rajya ra paschim ma 24 se rajya hune sthiti chha aaja nepal ma. Kasai ko limbuwan rajya, kasaiko madhesi rajya, kasaiko magaraati rajya, kasai ko dalit rajya, kasai ko sadbhawona rajya, kasai ko shah-rana rajya, kasai ko kantipur, kasai ko bhadgaun huna sakchha. Tyasaile hami le milera basnu parchha. Kasai le ke garna sakchha, kasaile ke. Milera desh ko rakshya garnu paryo. Haina bhane, bholi India le nepal lai sikkim banaunchha. Tyo bela ma ke garne, jahan pheri 95% rajnaitik, academic, economic, commercial, ra beurocratic manchhe bahun barga ka nai chhan.
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Posted on 02-07-05 8:42
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राम्रो भन्नु भयो हर्के दाई मेरो पनि भनाइ यो नै हो । नेपाली को म गर्छु भन्ने बानि हटाएर कसैले म गर्छु भनेर आगाढि आँउछ भने आवश्य समर्थन दिनु पर्छ। You are right we got nothing to loose and we relly had nothing to gain had we stayed at the traingular halt of the prior nepalese politics! Let us support someone and start seriously thinking about nation building! Focus on your work not on politics now! And in three years, not only the king but people will be known as the best citizens of the world Revival
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Posted on 02-07-05 8:50
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in three years, not only the king but people will be known as the best citizens of the world Revival Darro ramailo kura garnu bho tapaile. It was really funny enjoyed reading it. ya in three yrs we will be the best citizen not only of the world but in the whole universe. Revival jee first ta hami huna ali hamme hamme parla,first prize ta pakistan le lagisakyo. But let's hope jhole .
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Revival
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Posted on 02-07-05 9:07
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The Ray of Hope will always be there!
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babajee
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Posted on 02-08-05 8:36
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Wrong process is going on in Nepal right now. The situation right now and henceforth will trigger the rise of strong monarch and weak people. Political process itself needs support of people, majority of people. Political parties beckon the majority of people. And, a country does what the majority of people want. And the deeds of country is the reflection of the people, and the situation of a country is the outcome of the want and desire of people. Desire, when being neglected and misinterpreted bring unwanted consequences: Corruption, nepotism, and recent military coup. The military coup of feb.1 is not logical in anyway and it cannot be justified. Hami nepali sabai ko autai chana ? sundar Santa Nepal?. King Gyanendra has taken a self acclaimed step to bring peace to Nepal so that we could live and travel without any threat. But, he cannot bring peace to Nepal. He could bring peace to his heart by realizing that he can make a sovereign country knelt on his knee. He could bring peace to his heart by realizing that he and his family can make laws. He could bring peace to his heart by realizing that a family can own a country. He could bring peace to his heart by realizing that he is a dictator. He can bring peace to his heart by realizing that ?I?m the man who can walk above the constitution made by the feelings of 25 million people.? Each word of the constitution of 2047 weighs every drop of blood of martyrs who died letting us live free, so that we could watch HBO, BBC, Zee tv, AJtak, Channel Nepal, Surf internet, chat, could draw and write things we disliked in Gaijatra magazine, practice our own way of life. This is a democracy; an open world. Every word of constitution refers to the last word every martyr said with their last breath: Prajatantra The rule of people. There is no more rule of people and law in nepal. Most of the politicians did not took the spirit of democracy seriously and most surprisingly the maoist, who had the freedom to express, came up with armed revolution. If maoist really wanted to give freedom and liberty to unprivileged and suppressed lower caste of people, they would have taken an intellectual way of consistent persuasion rather than weapons. Political parties lacked in commitment made to people, maoist over manipulated the illiterate, unprivileged and suppressed class of people. Now, the King, who is a symbol of unity in Nepal has fallen in the same category of political parties and maoist. He has failed to institutionalize democratic system in Nepal. And, has taken arms to bring nepali together. If he really wanted peace in Nepal; 1. why didn?t he completely support the democratic government? 2. Why did he took the supreme power just within 2 years of his accession to throne?3. Why did he surge support to initial Maoist movement? 4. Why was the royal massacre dramatized? Most of these questions have somewhat the same answer: Desire for power. May democratic system be institutionalized and peace prevail in Nepal.
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Posted on 02-08-05 8:40
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Malaai yi neo-panche haru kina man pardaina vane ni-- because they are seeping some Ice tea somewhere and relaxing and bitching about everything in the world and they want people of Nepal to just listen and liken Gyanendra no matter how he F*&(s the country.
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jhakree
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Posted on 02-08-05 10:16
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j hos Babajee bawal lekhnuhuncha yar. very good
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Posted on 02-08-05 11:20
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Raati bhai sakayo, huna ta, tai pani hbf} hai sabai lai, Babajee le lekhnu bho "And, a country does what the majority of people want. And the deeds of country is the reflection of the people, and the situation of a country is the outcome of the want and desire of people." Exactly babajee, a country and the state head does what the majority of the people want, and has done what majority of the people want. There are lot of people who prefer to think the other way round and believe everyone should think the other way round, but we being the general people of the country should think for the countrymen and the people living there. If my memory supports me, India said that its not going to interfer in Nepal's internal affair, and I haven't seen much of "ACTIVE" international pressure on King G. This is because of the fact that the people in the country are happy and have high expection from big G then the small G (Girija). Babajee wrote "The military coup of feb.1 is not logical in anyway and it cannot be justified.Hami nepali sabai ko autai chana ? sundar Santa Nepal?. Babajee would you enlighten me on the phrase "the military coup" because i personally don't believe that what happened in nepal is a military coup. And you have already said One dream of all the nepalese is "SUNDAR SANTA NEPAL" either you have to say that this is not true if it comes to nepalese living in Nepal or because most of them have no problem with the latest development. Arko kura, sabai nepali bhanda big G pani tehi nai ta parcha ni, hoina ra. So wats the problem with the person jasko sapana "SUNDAR SANTA NEPAL CHA". Babajee le lekhnu bho " Each word of the constitution of 2047 weighs every drop of blood of martyrs who died letting us live free, so that we could watch HBO, BBC, Zee tv, AJtak, Channel Nepal, Surf internet, chat, could draw and write things we disliked in Gaijatra magazine, practice our own way of life. " Babajee u r very much true with the fact that the constitution of 2047 weighs every drop of blood of martyrs who dies letting us live free (ani tesh pachi) so we could watch HBO ??????????? BBC ??????????????? ZEE TV ??????????, so on. If u are representing all the nepalese believe democracy is to watch movies in HBO and to watch news in zee tv, aajtak and chat????????? then I believe nepal ma democracy yo naya generation le pani handle garna sakdaina. Common broda wake up, democracy is not to watch tv and news and some rated movies. Sahid le sabai le tv herna paaos bhanera nai ragat ko balidan gareko ho ta ???????????? Ask ur self. Ki sabai lukera bacheka haru le ghus khana sakun bhanera. What is the motivation behind the martyrs' sacrifice. u got to understand that first dude. Pheri babajee lekhnu huncha, "Most of the politicians did not took the spirit of democracy seriously and most surprisingly the maoist, who had the freedom to express, came up with armed revolution." You have already accepted that the politicians did not took the spirit of democracy seriously, so what would you think the people would do, then to kick their a$$ out. Who are maoist, how did they start, they are the people of our country, they are there because they are poor, and they have a dream, they want to fulfill their dream. Democratic leaders (i would call them a$$$$$$$$$$$$$ holes) could not fulfill it so they took an alternative route. They became wat they are now because of their leader, they were not born killer. They still have a dream that they wanto to achieve. A very simple example that happens in most of the nepalese house (no offence) what would one do to achieve a dream to marry a girl one loves if parents don't accept it ? What would u do ? Revolt against your own parents, its called revolution, u r doing against ur parents. What maoist are doing is in a larger scale. I blame the leaders not the people even in that case. I don't want to get into what happened in the past, i care for present and what would happen in the future. If Nepal becomes peaceful and prosperous I don't care about what happend in the Royal Massacre and who did it. I care for my country and people not for a particular family so called "leaders" but if they do good for the country i have no comment even with them. font face="Kantipur" size="+1"> ho g]kfn >L kz'klt gfyn] xfdL g]kfnL ;a}sf] /Iff u?g
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Posted on 02-08-05 11:47
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font face="Kantipur" size="+1"> ho g]kfn >L kz'klt gfyn] xfdL g]kfnL ;a}sf] /Iff u?g
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Posted on 02-08-05 11:50
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mathi ali kati mistake bhayecha. This is an attempt to correct it and continuitinoo from above ho g]kfn >L kz'klt gfyn] xfdL g]kfnL ;a}sf] /Iff u?g
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Posted on 02-09-05 10:16
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Harkedai: Point well taken. Babaji seems to have taken some pages out of the book on democracy. Reality is very different. Let us ask ourselves a very simple questions: Have our life changed for better in the last 14 years? I mean life of 24 million nepali. The asnwer is clearly no. If it is no, then we need to change CEO. Just like HP kicked out Carlin Feorina or some name like that. All I want to see is the net result. And I dont focking care who that person is as long as we see improvement in our life.
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Posted on 02-09-05 1:03
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well Hakredai, after reading babajee's posting what i can say is ,he is using names of channels inplace of media and freedom of media to present the fact to people in all part of the world.HE didn't only mentioned entertainment channels but also information and news channels. the use of media depends upon u and only u. if u gonna use it just to shake ur f$$$in a$$ then no one cares. but what we believe is people of world should be able to access media and know whats going iin different parts of world. In one line u said that u dont care what happend in the past and care present and future.I donno how that possible ? the past history of a person show his intentions toward coming days and pahile nai nepal ka dev devi ka mustri taskar garne ani desh ma bhayako law and order lai break garne lai desh ko sacho karyabhar sumpanu bhane ko ta Chor lai sacho nai dinu jasto ho.
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Posted on 02-09-05 7:32
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?a country and the state head does what the majority of the people want?, Harkedai harkedai, we share a very vast difference on couple of things and share similarities in couple tooo. Let me enlighten you a country is a peaceful country if only it is ruled under laws. the constitution is what guides us to abide by the rule of law. So the constitution of a country is the head of a state not a person who is a murderer, smuggler and a short sighted. ?If my memory supports me, India said that its not going to interfer in Nepal's internal affair, and I haven't seen much of "ACTIVE" international pressure on King G. This is because of the fact that the people in the country are happy and have high expection from big G then the small G (Girija).?, harkedai This is the irony of present situation that India and usa is supporting king G. But let me tell you at this point which you will remember for, when India seals indo- Nepal border, just like rajiv Gandhi did . India and usa are supporting King G just because those democratic countries doesnot tolerate even the shadow of communitst. Extremist communist ko ta kura nagarau. Maoist are the extremist communist who are literally enemy of India and usa. Those countries are supporting King G just to get rid of maoist. Once maoist is uprooted( if happened) India and usa will be the very first country to advocate against dictatorship in a country in 21st century. King G very well knows the fact and will never let maoist problem to solve in Nepal. So your dream of Nepal being a peaceful country under King G?s leadership will be all shattered. King G will act just act as the Pervez Musharraf who catches a dozen of terrorist and says he is leading a war against terrorism. It will be the same with King G, he won?t let maoist problem to be solved coz that is the stair to him. ?You have already accepted that the politicians did not took the spirit of democracy seriously, so what would you think the people would do, then to kick their a$$ out.?, harkedai Harkedai dai, here you say that people should kick the a$$ out the corrupt leader and this is where we share similarity. People should kick a$$ of the corrupt leader not a person, not the king. WE want rule of people not of a person.
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Posted on 02-09-05 8:11
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Well babajee, what every u have said is very true, when we have the peole run by the system not system run by the people. Nepal ko constitution ko nai kura garda, nepal ko constitution le kati jana neta lai samatyo ? Kati jana lai ghuskhori gareko pramanit garyo ? Tehi nepal ko nai sambidhan hoina, whose article 127 was used y king. So what happened to the constitution. Nepal ma dherai agadi someone said, i think u know who said so, "Nepal ko sambidhan bhaneko kaagaj ko khosto matra ho" which is used by the politicians and the head of state for their own use. Babajee nepal ma sambidhan ko paalana kati bhako cha ? Do you have any statistics on this ? Actually nepal's constitution is one of the best in the world, but sadly nepalese didn't understand a single word of it. Sambidhan ma check and balance ko sabai kura haru chan, they were always present there, but did it happen. Nepal ko one of the most popular ukhan "Nepal ko kaanun banaune le nai jaanun." It is very true. Did we ever cared to follow the law of the coutry. Kathmandu ma kati jaana sanga drivers liscence cha ? Do u think all of them went through all the process listed in the papers of law ? It is just an example a very simple example. Hami nepali nai hoina kaam chito garna lai ghus dine ? Do we follow the rules. Aba support ko kura garda, tapai le sarai raamro kura garnu bho, kina India le ra usa le chup laagera basyo bhanera. Tapai lai Nepali chai kina chup laagya jasto laagcha. Do you think majority of the people don't know about who is ruling the country. Every one is aware, including me. Nepal ma nepali ko laagi yeuta multiple choice question cha. *Nepal ma kolle saasan gareko herna chahanu huncha ? a) King b) Maoist c) The same old a$$ holes (netas) d) all of the above (it was going on) e) none of the above (no one knows what this is gonna be like) What would be ur answer for this question ? Y can't we wait like India and USA r doing ? I believe something is better than nothing "when we don't have any thing to loose y don't we gamble once again" Jai nepal
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Posted on 02-09-05 8:21
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check this out http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0502/S00118.htm
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Posted on 02-09-05 8:26
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"shock and awe" re muji. nepal lai pani iraq banaune surmaa chha yiniharu jammai.
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Posted on 02-09-05 8:44
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Harke dai, i think you might be true, but he thing is not about gambling. 2007 sal mah prajantra aayo 2016 sal mah khosiyo 2046 sal mah prajatantra ayo 2005 mah feri khosiyo. ruling a country is not like playing cat and a hat game. It is about institutionalizing a system of governing, and democracy is the best way of governing. maoist, political parties, people and king should be like salt and vinegar in chips. You cannot go to a peace talk with weapons on your arm.
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