I simply hate it

 yo i love the color blue. u dont like it? fk you. its a superior color. if u like green, u suck..

basically sums up this thread. :)

My PC boots up in 10-15 seconds. I've rapid drive on 64 GB SSD, with Windows 7 core-i7 processor second generation sandy-bridge CPU 2.2 GHZ . and yeah, I love my system, it's pretty fast.  What's the fastest bootup for mac?? 20-25 secs??
Wait.. microsoft+intel is coming up with something instant boot.. 5 seconds or less. I'm waiting for the day.

caco, you can call me critic, not haters :D , I don't hate ppl like you who use mac, in general, it's the corporation and it's products that I hate.

 bitter truth, my macbook air boots up under 10s. 60 gb ssd, 4 gb ram. macs get love from intel too.

right on bro, :D

 @bittertruth,
  You are missing my point.
I am talking about Linux desktops not server. Of course linux servers are still great because they they dont use X11 components.
Just go look at KDE 4, Unity, Gnome 3, they are abysimal. Gnome 2 is still great though and I regularly use it at my work .
But the support has ended so noone will be actively developing it apart from some half arsed forks.
I was a linux+windows user, now I am a mac+windows+linux user, I use windows for entertainment and mac for development and linux at work.
Oh and I use a Hackintosh (core i5+8GB =$400!) so your hardware restricitions do not apply.

If you love DOS so you should like doing stuff in terminal. Linux terminal is without any doubt better than windows.

If you are master of batch script, you will of course love more powerful shell script, in linux and mac.
I like you used to wonder why all the top class developers I know use a Mac (folks at Google and Twitter),
now I realize, Terminal is the biggest reason.
For example watch the awesome Ryan Dahl on node.js, I think one would struggle to do something like that on windows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo_B4LTHi3I

It depends, sometimes I love it sometimes I hate it. 
 
I was tired of typing iphone messages but as apple have launched beta version of Messages for mac recently now I can type messages in my macbook and send to any iphone, great relief for me!

 macs have the best device to device integration. if u buy into the apple ecosystem, you are set. if you have ONLY a macbook or ONLY an iphone, you are probably missing like 70% of the picture :)

wait PC means windows? looks like i need to go back to school!!!o.O

i use Backtrack10 +leopard and so far love it!! will never go back to windows~~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijVqtORa0Y

 Hey Mac Lovers and PC Lovers...can't we just move along?? It all depends on the type of work you are doing.....

@poon-hill
of course we can move on!! last word before i move--- "[Disallowed String for - bad word] WINDOWS" !! okhay!! ready to move on!! :D

i simply hate apple products.

I reply as an avid windows fan, that also owned an iPhone and MacBook (noted only to show that I’m as impartial as one can get).

Apple advertises that PCs are better for spreadsheets and work, and they are. But thats not all… Heres a list of things that Apple blows at (or a list of the top things that piss everybody off about MacBook or Apple in general):

1. Add a right click. Ok we get it, you want to be different, “simpler”, “easy”, whatever. People get the concept of Right clicking now, even Mac freaks. The double tap short cut is a lame substitute.

2. Photos - iPhoto < Picasa. Hands down. If you think its the other way around your lying to yourself, seek counseling.

3. It freezes!!! Its BS that macs are “stabler” than PCs. I had a brand new MacBook, and it slows down and freezes up just like a PC. No extra software installed, just Firefox… if you’re looking to get a Mac don’t buy into the crap that Macs never freeze.

4. Macs come with crappy software installed too. Just because Dell deems it necessary to install Norton, but Apple only goes as far as installing GarageBand doesn’t mean Apple is better. Why do I need GarageBand? or iPhoto?

5. Picassa is just one… hundreds of other software titles only run on PC. Its a cheap shot… but its true.

6. Mac people worship Steve Jobs, and most consider Bill Gates the devil.
“Gates gave away over $29 billion to charities from 2000 onwards. These donations are usually cited as sparking a substantial change in attitudes towards philanthropy among the very rich, with philanthropy becoming the norm.” [Wikipedia]
Talking crap about Microsoft is one thing, but if you don’t respect the Gates then your just a jackass.

7. iPhone - They locked it up! What the heck? With all Apples focus on letting people customize everything, they are still greedy and in it for the money. I can see locking people into Cingular (all though that in itself is a capital crime), but not letting people develop apps for it? Thats just ridiculous.

8. MacBook - $100 more for black paint job? (Don’t know if this is still the case)

9. Not as many “options” - Ok, it keeps it simple… but what if I want a simple way to select my printer?

10. PCs are Cheaper. I’ve read the posts that say they aren’t anymore… but its BS. Go to TechBargains.com and click on a Dell. The “MSRP” may be more than an Apple… but Dell still dominates Apple in cost. Does Dell even offer a $2800 laptop?

11. The most valid entertainment system till date also makes a PC, Mac simply stands short in the gaming front. Game Developers simply have more titles on PC than on mac.

12. For every major updates, you pay extra $100 or so on Mac. They simply assume you've money growing on the tree. I can't imagine Microsoft charging me for every service packs. FYI, Microsoft send all updates free of cost. 

13. Mac is NOT virus free. To be honest with you, if you keep up with Microsoft, Microsoft Windows is the most robust and highly fortified operating system that exist in the world today. All those reports that you see about Windows being the most vulnerable is because it's the most pirated one as well. And in the grey market it sells at the price of onion. They don't update their OS and it's a known fact, all the crackers target those unpatched system and it becomes a news. In addition, many legimately bought OS don't get patched. You can't blame someone for your idiocy. Mac is now becoming the most vulnerable system. 

The bottom line? Macs are DIFFERENT than PCs. Better than Sony – undoubtedly (it would be hard not to be). Better than Dell or IBM? Depends.

Alece, have to give the Jab, don't you??
Anyway i was in this super computer  facility at university and they had this poster: "Computers are like air conditioners, it doesn't work when you open the Windows"

pepsi, I bought mine for 99 .. and it was a major overhaul..
Iknow you guys are paying for service packs.. lion, leopard, tiger whatever, it's not a major overhaul..

Pepsi, In nepal, like I wrote before they use all pirated ones with no support, and they browse the nasty sites, and that's how they get infected. You can't even compare your legally bought MacOS with the pirated Windows.. that's not a comparison.. my friend. That's blindfaith religion to your apple God.

 well said pepsi :)

btw excited about 10.8 coming out soon? imessages nigga!!

I'm going to put my perspective as well.

I own both Windows and Apple Products. I have a home built Intel i7 990x PC system on Win7 and I have couple of iphones and Macbook Air and a Lenovo Win7 Laptop.

Things I love about Macs and Iphones is that the user experience is very good. They have nice asthetics and form factors and very tightly integrated ecosystem. I never had any issues like crashing or anything with them and I love the facetime feature. I absolutely hate itunes. It boils my blood everytime when I use it. I don't worry too much about price tag. They spend a lot in research and development and their products may be costly but it's worth every penny in my opinion. The conditions in Foxconn has nothing to do with my user experience. Every single one of the chinese products is that way so I won't single out Apples. 

Things I love about windows is that it's a cheap alternative to apple and I get a lot of free SW. However flip side is that the HW does not measure up with the standards. My lenovo has constant problems with the display and I paid $800 for it (I bought the Mac air for $1150). So for 350 more I'm getting a slightly better OS and better HW then the crappy Lenovo. But that has nothing with windows. So it's not a windows problem but a Lenovo problem in my opinion. And windows 7 is pretty stable except I always get weary when it updates. Once I updated the service pack and it never came back online. I later found out that the disk space ran out while it was trying to upgrade. That's a stupid mistake. Why can't windows check for disk space and warn the user before it upgrades rather than upgrade halfway and crash? It totally pissed me off and I had to restore the HDD image from older copy of windows (Using clonezilla). My iphone has always warned me of disk space before trying to update anything. So I believe this is windows only problem. So Windows is a little unpolished but it's cheap so can't complain much. 

My i7 on win7 is pretty stable and only had few issues with them. But some of the SW that runs on Win7 is total crap. Like Movie Maker live. But that can be analogous with the crappy itunes. Has nothing to do with OS. 

So all in all, I like both systems. I am more confident about Mac OX but there's a price to pay for that. Windows I have less confidence but I have all the tools to fix the PC problems by myself if needed. 

1. Add a right click. Ok we get it, you want to be different, “simpler”, “easy”, whatever. People get the concept of Right clicking now, even Mac freaks. The double tap short cut is a lame substitute.
my view:: i find two-finger-tap easier for rite click and much more quicker!!!

2.Photos - iPhoto < Picasa. Hands down. If you think its the other way around your lying to yourself, seek counseling.
my view : i didn't knew Microsoft bought Picasa too!! thanks FYI!!! :P an iphoto is good for me since i can sync my photos easily from iphone and transfer to FB ~~make slides shows and export easily...

3. It freezes!!! Its BS that macs are “stabler” than PCs. I had a brand new MacBook, and it slows down and freezes up just like a PC. No extra software installed, just Firefox… if you’re looking to get a Mac don’t buy into the crap that Macs never freeze.
my view :: idk if u are opening shit load of porn sites with 20 tabs open!!! new MacBook and it froze??? !! maybe the Macbook didnt liked u!! :P and if some applications don't respond u can force quit!!! m pretty sure u use (CTRL + ALT + DELETE)... 100 times a day with ur windows... well u can use (command + option + esc) to force quit in mac!!! (m assuming u dont know this lol!! maybe i am wrong)

4. Macs come with crappy software installed too. Just because Dell deems it necessary to install Norton, but Apple only goes as far as installing GarageBand doesn’t mean Apple is better. Why do I need GarageBand? or iPhoto?
my view :: i need garageband to record songs!!! lol!! and its awesome u shud try it!! u can fix ur crappy voice with auto-tune!!! :D abt iphoto i explained it before!! now don't ask me why do need "imovie"?? btw how is ur "windows movie maker" doing ?

5. Picassa is just one… hundreds of other software titles only run on PC. Its a cheap shot… but its true.
my view:: LOL really ?? i can use wine and use ur fav program Notepad!!! :P and btw photobooth...garage band ...and blah blah blah only runs on Mac..

6. Mac people worship Steve Jobs, and most consider Bill Gates the devil.
“Gates gave away over $29 billion to charities from 2000 onwards. These donations are usually cited as sparking a substantial change in attitudes towards philanthropy among the very rich, with philanthropy becoming the norm.” [Wikipedia]
Talking crap about Microsoft is one thing, but if you don’t respect the Gates then your just a jackass.
my view:: actually real mac lovers worship steve woz!!! i respect Gates for buying Ms-Dos from tim Paterson and creating a gazillion dollar empire out of it~~

7. iPhone - They locked it up! What the heck? With all Apples focus on letting people customize everything, they are still greedy and in it for the money. I can see locking people into Cingular (all though that in itself is a capital crime), but not letting people develop apps for it? Thats just ridiculous.
my view:: "but not letting people develop apps for it? " "locking people into cingular??" i thought Verizon and Sprint carried iphones!! and last time i bought an android htc hd2!! it was locked to t-mobile!! damn !! [Disallowed String for - bad word]ing tmobile and htc!!! did ur porn app got rejected ???

8.9.10.11 -->>> total gibberish

12. For every major updates, you pay extra $100 or so on Mac. They simply assume you've money growing on the tree. I can't imagine Microsoft charging me for every service packs. FYI, Microsoft send all updates free of cost.
my view:: u paid 100 dollar for major updates ??WTF of do u mean for the new OS!! as far as i remember windows 7 wasn't offered free too!!lol!! as a matter of fact updates are much easier and are frequently pushed to the users!! u still using windows xp service pack 1 ,2 ??

3. Mac is NOT virus free. To be honest with you, if you keep up with Microsoft, Microsoft Windows is the most robust and highly fortified operating system that exist in the world today. All those reports that you see about Windows being the most vulnerable is because it's the most pirated one as well. And in the grey market it sells at the price of onion. They don't update their OS and it's a known fact, all the crackers target those unpatched system and it becomes a news. In addition, many legimately bought OS don't get patched. You can't blame someone for your idiocy. Mac is now becoming the most vulnerable system.
my view:: who said Mac is virus free lol!!! steve jobs ? "Microsoft Windows is the most robust and highly fortified operating system that exist in the world today" i bet u wrote that while tripping!! last time i checked *nix was still the best and secure system!! "Mac is now the most vulnerable system"
??? some articles that backs up ur statement wud be nice

and btw PC doesnt mean Windows only!! u might wanna check on that!!! (blame on that mac advert!!)

"Macs are DIFFERENT than PCs. Better than Sony"" LOL i thought sony came with windows too!! are u comparing them on hardware basic? i thoght it was between MAC vs Microsoft!!!

anyways none of ur points made sense to me!!

m done feeding the troll!!! hf!! peace!!

that was a well written reply! kudos for the effort buddy! i was looking at replying, but 12 points i just said..fk it..someday they'll find out.