The unwarranted and consistently brutal assaults by Nepali authorities on nuns, monks and other peaceful Tibetan demonstrators is second only to the barbarism of the Chinese. Aside from the Chinese invaders, no other country has been as brutal toward these peaceful demonstrators, seeking only to draw attention to the occupation and repression of Tibet, as Nepal has been. 

Are Nepalis such shameless panderers for the handouts from China? Have Nepalis so soon and easily forgotten their own (ongoing) struggles for franchise? 

Such eagerness not to offend the Chinese, to demonstrate Nepali subservience to the Chinese is ... PATHETIC

It's embarrasing even to the casual observer

~ may You Know ~

How can you take yourself seriously with utter double standard.
The Indian in the South are joining the Madeshi and are asking for separate state using brutal force,killing and violent protest. None of the police nor any leaders has the balls  to stop them but now are getting seats in the parliament with other leaders instead. But  when a peaceful protest by the people of the North, then you have the balls to beat those defenseless monk. They're NOT asking a piece of land from Nepal (they were protesting in front of the UN), but you still beat them unlike the Madeshi who want to divide our land. Talk about fairness and our bravery.
Chikat...you're a CHINESE.

The Nepali police don't discriminate - those dhedes just beat up anyone they can get their hands on... Its sad that the lama monks are on the receiving end. I don't know the details this time but mostly its the protesting group that provokes the police with dhuga mudha, blocking the road, and burning the tires and stuff...

I support the rights to protest but one should do so by not disturbing the rights of other fellow human beings. The same goes for the Tibetans - protest but in a civil way.

But then again, what do I know.

Chiikaat gadha ko baccha,

LETS SUPPOSE INDIA INVADES NEPAL. WILL U FIGHT THEM TO PROTECT NEPAL ?

 

Nepali police desperately need better training and resources to handle protests.  I still remember them lathi charging a protest by blind activists in front of Singha Durbar and then breaking the activists' walking canes.

On humanitarian ground, we can say police's act is inhuman. But on a political ground, can we really afford to give room for the tibetens to raise their voice against the CHINA. India including other South Asian nations already agreed to one China policy. Not to mention, even the almighty BUSH is just urging china to reconcile the matter with mr.lama. He is not saying TIBET should be free country.

So let us see this issues from pragmatic point of view..I know bhutanese refugee are surviving under aid money of donar agency. Can any one tell me how come these tibeten rufugee are living such a lavish life? Let us not try to dupe anyone here...How come our virgin hills are being victimized under the name of budhhism, to impose monastic fudelistic culture?

SO GUYS-YOU ARE FREE TO CONDEM IN HUMAN ACTIVITES! BUT IF YOU TRY TO DENY ONE CHINA POLICY, IT IS NOT GOING TO HELP US!

PS_ at the behest of Indian authority, few years ago nepalese police arrested some pakistani from kathmandu and handed over them to indian authority. They were allegedly doing anti-india activities, but we do not know the reality. In case of Tibet issue, thigs are quite discernable.  When it comes to india, US is also silence, but when it comes to China they make hue and cry! C'mon!!

Can someone clarify for me, esp. manang gal, whether Tibet is a Tibetan (and therefore political) issue or a Buddhist issue. Should I sympathise with Tibetans if I am a Buddhist? I think it is this tricky slope that HHDL needs to be more upfront about. Does he represent the Tibetans, or the Buddhists?

Comments welcome

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I also believe that beating people is inhuman activities and this should be condemned. But we need to see the flip side of the coin too.

let us analyze what is peaceful demonstration. Is blocking the road, burning tyre on the street, obstructing to enter the UN or any other premises can be called as a peaceful demonstration? Did you people in the US enjoy these things during the April uprising?

So far in my knowledge, in US you have to get a written permission from the competent authority to make a demonstration explaining nos. of people, types of banner and slogan, routes and places.Eventhough U are not allowed to completely obstruct the road, possibly a lane.

I do believe that there are a lot of Tibetan refugees in US and why didn't they obstruct the road, burn tyres on the street and did not demonstrate in front of UN headquarters by completely obstructing the entrance and exit.

Try to do it in the US and see the response of the police.

So what alternatives police has to disperse the crowd when they failed to comply with the lawful order. Police are not  benefitted by beating people personnaly.

Eagle5
Don't pull things off your ass. If our government had zoning law in place, or a concept of city planning, those monasteries WOULD not have mushroomed our "virgin" hills. By the way, what proof do you have that they are built by Tibetan refugees. If you're not from KTM, it's your ignorant/biased assumption. Most of them are built by Nepali, don't mix people's nationality with their religion. One thing aside
What makes your temple or your culture more holier than theirs? If they're fine with their monastic fuedal system, then why do you want to go and bring "democracy" like in Iraq when they had never asked for it in the first place? Civilization change with time. Man, look at yourself before you point your finger.
Accept it, it is lawless in Nepal in terms of housing development. So if you cannot add more new temples, somebody will. If there were no monasteries, there would be Mosque or Churches. What is your choice?
No Nepali in their right mind will say "Free Tibet", it's impossible from every angle. The title of this thread is "Shameless Nepali pandering" regarding the inhumane treatment of the demonstrators, nothing else. Don't ramble your Tibetan history that you have learned from "History Channel".
How come the same tire burning, road blocks and property damage by Maoist or the Madeshi hooligans are not dealt with brute force?
No Peace

Rewire,

So you believe that what the Tibetans demonstrators did was wrong and the police discriminate them with others at the same ground.

Don't relate with others, just justify their actions

Peace

REWIRE- I can only pity on your knowledge about history, local geography, local culture, about different branches of buddhism( therabadi, hinyana, mahayana, bajrayana). First go to school and earn enough knowledge about these things and then try to pop up infront of me!

And in a country, where our own  Bihara and Bahals are turning into ruins your thinking of local people are building monastery is just to shallow to comment on!

You are right there is no laws in nepal, other wise things would have been like what BERK stated. You are right there is no laws that is why some crooked people under the veil of religion and freedom exploiting the situation.

What are you trying to prove- i really think you need to be re-wired from top to bottom,  shut-cricuit problem ?-make sure do not burn yourself!

  TALK SENSE!

A culturally free tibet is more feasible than a politically free one. I would encourage tibetans to start competing with the han chinese in business and other relevant areas rather than wasting their time in protest. If you really take into consideration that china is becoming an economic superpower, they are better off being part of china. They should up their efforts and seriously compete with the han chinese and do better in education and business.

China will never give up tibet and nobody can make them do it. Tibet is a strategic place from military perspective as it borders india.

Eagle5,
you seem to have issue with Bhotes (that's what I assume you'd call us). Were you molested, bullied by any of them during your school?

Still to be Rewired-

Well, I do not have any issues with anyone, but i think you are implying Bhotes are molester. Are you also one of those Bhote? Again pity on your depth of knowledge, you are showing true color now! This is why i was telling you to go to good school and earn some knowledge, will be good for you!

c'mon Birbhadra, teach him something..this guy need to be rewired!

eagle5,"On humanitarian ground, we can say police's act is inhuman. But on a political ground, can we really afford to give room for the tibetens to raise their voice against the CHINA. India including other South Asian nations already agreed to one China policy. Not to mention, even the almighty BUSH is just urging china to reconcile the matter with mr.lama. He is not saying TIBET should be free country."

Waht one China Policy ? Can we afford to give Tibetans room to raise their voice against China ? huh !! ke bhancha yoh ??? Dimaag ta thick thauu ma cha tero gadha ? YOU ARE TALKING AS IF YOU OWN THE TIBETAN PEOPLE(like slaves). Nepal being a DOOOUKWASHIII COUNTRY should be able to afford to give the REPRESSED TIBETAN REFUGEES A LIL VOICE. I tought maybe because WE(NEPAL) are in the same boat(bullied by both China and India) would be sympathetic to the tibetans. TARA NEPALI BHEDAAA HARU TA PARYOOO ...he he gu bharyaaa dimaag cha saab ko. I mean if the same thing happened to Nepal( like India takes over... WILL WE(nepali people be saying FREE NEPAL or reconcile with India?).

 

Eagle5,"So let us see this issues from pragmatic point of view..I know bhutanese refugee are surviving under aid money of donar agency. Can any one tell me how come these tibeten rufugee are living such a lavish life? Let us not try to dupe anyone here...How come our virgin hills are being victimized under the name of budhhism, to impose monastic fudelistic culture? "

Ke bhanney yestooo gadha lai. IDIOTS LIKE THIS MORON ONLY BURNS WITH JELOUSY WHEN THEY SEE OTHERS PROGRESS. I SAY TIBETANS ARE A LOT HARD WORKING PEOPLE THAN NEPALI PEOPLE. SAME GOES FOR THE INDIANS(how do you think they own most of the big businesses in Nepal ? Cause we gave it to them thats why). In the 80's more than 80% of the Hong Kong, Bangkok, and Singapore buseness were run by Tibetans and Manageys. Then slowly the Indians came over and took over everything. NOW WHOSE FAULT IS IT ? TA GADHA JUSTO ANDOO WILL SAY ITS THEIR FAULT. But the truth is it is NEPALI PEOPLE LAZYNESS THAT IS AT FAULT. Afuu lei pani kehii kaam gardaina aru lei garyoo bhaneey pani daahaaa matrai garcha yo gadha Nepali haru. Ajhaai Pragmatic veiw rey gadha ko !! ha ha ha Hasaucha Muuujhi !!

 

Bathroom cofee..bathroom ma basera taile coffee sangai comode ko pani tanis hola ani tero buddhi yesto bhako! ta pani school ja ani pad ani buj! tero tauko..nepal ma nepali managey haru " jimbhu" bechna hinda " tibeten refugee bhandauda haru sun ko dalla yeta ko uta garthey bhanne kura talai thaha thiyo! thamel, chetrapati dekhi swyambhu ra baudha ma gayera her rati k huncha..gadha karauncha aja..tero tibten lai dooukwashi diyera..nepal lai k battle field banaune..? tero tauko tero dimag kahan cha...tero tauko hard work le ho ki ke le earn gareko taile bhani ra nu pardaina..nepal ma baneko lavish monastery ra lavish ghar, night life, party garne hard work kai paisa ho..tara kasari ayo achhama cha...tan gada aru lai bhannu bhanda paila afain soch...ki ta pani tyetai tira ko ragat paris, ktha jhukiyera parya ni huna sakcha check gar!

 

WHAT WOULD TIBETIANS LIVE OFF OF IF IT GETS FREEDOM??? THE GOLD BISCUITS THEY NO LONGER HAVE? oYE BHOTEYS GET THE FUGG OUT OF NEPAL.....NOTHING AGAINST THE SHERPAS, MANANGAYS NOR ANY OTHER SUB NEPALI CITIZENS FROM THE MONGOL BACKGROUND. ME MYSELF AM A PART OF IT. THIS MASSSAGE IS STRICLTY TO THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM TIBET TO NEPAL. WE GAVE YOU A SPACE BUT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE OVER TAKING OUR NEIGHBOURHOODS AND YES YET DON'T CLAIM TO BE A NEPALI!!!

YOUR LEADER IS IN INDIA IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW HIS LEADS TO DEMOCRACY GO TO INDIA AND NOT SETTLE IN NEPAL.

 

THANKS

I-A-N

"SUB NEPALI CITIZENS'?

don't you think this is kinda offensive thing to say?

Eagle5,

tibetan haru ko ghar ma hatti ko sun pani cha rey HO ? ha ha ha He talk as if he is the only one who knows . None of us grew up in Nepal. ha ha GADHA TA HO NI Tyahii bheda bichaar bahek aru ke auuthyo yestoo gadha lai.

I AM NEPALI

SHERPA AND MANANGAY SUB NEPALI?  ENOUGH NOW.... NO ONE IS SUB OR UPPER IN NEPAL... REMEMBER THAT. WHAT IS YOUR POINT?