आजकल  देक्छु जता सुकै माओबादी को बिरोध. लाग्छ कि माओबादी लाई गाली नगर्ने रास्ट्रभक्त नै होइन. जानेर भन्दा पनि अरुको हो मा हो मिलाई माओबादी  को बिरोध गर्ने जमात अझ बढी छ. माओबादी को अजेंडा मन नपराएर भन्दा पनि माओबादी भनेका त हवाई चप्पल लाउने र फाटेका कपडा लाउने मात्रै हुन् , हामी सुकिलो कपडा लाउने ले त कहाँ त्यस्ता को जमात मा मिसिनु हुन्छ र भन्ने सोचाई राख्ने झन् धेरै छन्.   हो यो कुरा साचो हो कि माओबादी ले हत्या र हिंसा को बोलि बोल्छ. आफुलाई कोइ मन परेन भने बोलि ले सम्झाउनु को साटो गोलि ले सम्झौछा. तर मैले बुझ्न नसकेको कुरा यो छ कि माओबादी लाई किनारा लाउने नाम मा माओबादी लाई एक्ल्याए पछि के  हुन्छ देश मा कोसैले सोचेको छ ? अस्ति महाकली बेच्ने प्रधानमन्त्री छन् , जनता ले खबरदार नगरेको भए पस्स्पोर्ट पनि इंडिया लाई बेच्ने तरखर मा  थे उनि. अर्की छिन् बिद्या . श्रीमान को माया हुन्थ्यो त श्रीमान को हत्यारा इंडिया संग येसरी साखुल्ले हुन्न थिन . सुजाता र गच्छदार को त क कुरा गर्नु . करोड मा बिक्चन सजिलै . ओली र शेखर र सुर्यबह्दुर जस्ता इन्डियन agent  को कुरा नै नगरम . अनि हाम्रो देशलाई बचहुने को छ त नेता . म माओबादी ले बचौचहन भनेको होइन . माओबादी लाई एक्ल्याए पछि , power  घटाए पछि इंडिया र अमेरिका को कति चलखेल होला देशमा. अनि अर्को कुरा माओबादी ले केई गरेन आफ्नो सरकार हुदा भन्ने लाई यो भन्न चाहन्छु  कि एता एमाले को घुर्की ,उता फोरम को मनमनि र अर्कोतिर काँग्रेस को जे गर्दा पनि खुट्टा तानई को बीच कसले काम गर्न सक्छ? एकचोटी बहुमात को सरकार बनाउन र आनी पनि केई गर्न सकेनन भने म त्यी दिन देखि माओबादी को सुप्पोर्ट गर्दिन . ऐले सम्म जति कान्तिपुर ले खेदो खानोस , नागरिक क कनक मनि दीक्षित र नारायण वाग्ले ले जति बिरोध म़ा लेखुं , र जति पनि "सुकिलो"  लाउने जमात ले नाक खुम्चावूस , म़ा माओबादी को समर्थन गरिरहनेछु .(मेरो कुरा मन नपरे तर्क सहित को उत्तर दिनु , नराम्रा सब्द प्रयोग गरेर तर्क बलियो हुदैन )

@boulevard dreams: Sikkim WAS a Nation, not anymore!! I feel you have not turned the History book since 1975!! To understand why he was referring to Sikkim you need to look into more about Sikkim's History and Character called "Lendup Dorjee"

About Afghanistan the analogy is, look what happens when your country is playing ground for International Politics(look at its History, Soviet Vs America). I'll give you an example: Lets suppose Civil War breaks out in Nepal, and India sends its Troop in Nepal , "For Stability of Democracy and for Protecting Freedom and Liberty of Nepali People."!! Then they start a rampant killing and rape of Nepali Citizen!! They create a puppet government, but you feel you need to do something for your country and join with Forces to fight against Indian Military force in Nepal? So are you a Terrorist or a Freedom fighter??

In Nepal, the ONLY OPTION for stable Peace is to have a UNITY GOVERNMENT and to DRAFT a CONSTITUTION in TIME!!

If we start with petty EGO Fight then our whole nation will Suffer!!

yo maobadi ko birodh haina. 5 din nepal bandha kasaile garema k janata chupa lagera basna sakcha. usko chora chori school jana napauda, khana napauda ani kaam garera paisa kamauna napauda, jasto sukai manche lai pani ris uthcha.
Maobadi le j garyo thik garyo, sarkar le galti gareko cha, nikamma cha bhane tyasko birodh 100% garnu parcha, tara janata lai dukha diyera haina. Ti neta haru sabai ko ghar banda garidiu na( tyatikai pani office gayera talab matrai thapne ta hun, nikkamma haru ).
Ra maobadi le pahile jastai bal le nai sabai huncha bhanera manche marna thalyo bhane, k janata le afno surakcha ko lagi kehi sochda birodh gareko huncha.

thanx laure kancha for replying ....mood nai chalena nabujne lai reply garna . jaslai history taha chaina tyslae present pani bujeko hudaina .

Dalal bro, good point you raised about "jaslai history taha chaina tyslae present pani bujeko hudaina ."

Be it Financial World/Political World/Social World/Scientific World/Computer World :-)) name anything....

Hope you have read "People's History of United States", Howard Zinn!!

Yo thread Stockholm Syndrome ko upaj ho ki k ho?

Dalal.. is Dhaal... Pachanda chor`s Dhaal...... when prachanda fogs his wife Sita.. dalal acts like a dhaal...

i pity you dalal..seriously..i pity your ignorance...
you started the whole thread asking for answers to our questions with tarka....after i and several others responded..u did not answer with tarka to any of us.

lahure kancha...?
nobody is questioning the unity government for peace, many users including me mentioned it in previous threads....we are questioning the methods of maoist...the method of using violence as the solution to everything...
your analogy on Afghanistan is so far off buddy....there was a war between russia and america and usa aided  taliban to fight of russia for its own interest. unless china and india go on wars and put nepal in the middle....the analogy doesn't work...it is different situation..

here's your biggest mistake...your hypothesis of india having its troops in here and killing raping civilians...in todays world, country just dont send troops to other country to solve their internal problems,...the tension between maoist and other political party's in our internal issue...UN soldiers will be here long before any indian troops if things get crazy......
and here is the irony of your logic....you presented us with a hypothetical almost impossible situation of india having its troops here...lets say you are right...may be it can happen...my question to you is...replace india with maoist and you have got a situation that is not hypothetical and it is as real as it can get....maoist have constantly raped and killed cilvilians and we are fighting against it.....
SO ARE WE TERRORIST OR FREEDOM FIGHTERS????...think hard and answer...
we just want peace...thats all we want...
i respect you for wanting peace too...as we all do..

@amidstchaos I was replying to "boulevard
dreams"!! I though it was necessary to write where FACT was twisted!!
(where Sikkim was claimed as a sovereign country)!!



Violence doesn't solve anything that is my Stand!! Neither i'll argue
against or for the establishment or the Maoist in this scenario.



My hypothesis was just to show "boulevard dreams" when s/he claimed there
are lots of terrorist activities in Afghanistan, with respect to Dalal's
claim. So my question to you is "if Afgans fight back against American occupancy are they called freedom fighter or a terrorist?"...so will be the case if India send's its troop in Nepal!!

History: There was NO WAR between Russia (Soviet) and America. (if it's Cold War, then Yes). Still my point is when Countries (read Nepal/Afghanistan) becomes playground for International Politics, it is the country which is being PLAYED that SUFFERS!!

When India's Para-military force called BSF or SSB (Border Security Force/Seema Suraksha Bal) already doing "Raping and Harassing Part(killing may be isolated case)", Active 25 camps headed by Colonel of Indian Army are present in different parts of Nepal in name of Pension Camps. The continuous encroachment and Kalapani, and active involvement of Ambassador of India to Nepal in our internal matters are an example of Proxy Occupancy!!

I agree my hypothesis might be less probable considering the fact China is in UNSC with Veto power(considering it will vote against) and if India wants to move its Military, it'll do via UN help, than without!! BUT BUT Under Article 51 of UN Rules, USE OF FORCE in SELF DEFENSE  is the RIGHT Granted to all the STATES under that CHARTER!! [when India is drawing parallel between theirs' own Insurgency  and Nepali Maoist, it may not be sheer coincidence]

UN peacekeeping Soldiers coming to Nepal, you are kidding right?? "A traditional peacekeeping operation is established when parties to a
conflict, typically two states, AGREE to the interposition of UN troops
to uphold a ceasefire.

Well it Happens in Today's World : "example Panama(1989)/Iraq(~1990-20~)/Afghanistan/Serbia(Kosovo)/Georgia(By Russia)/ Presence of US forces in Korea......and how can we forget VIETNAM!!


In Nepal's Scenario we all are NEPALI....even Maoist are Nepali!! When you say WE are fighting against Maoist, and Maoist claim they are Fighting for Nepali's Right!! Whom do we believe??......Its the same case  of "One Man's Terrorist is, Another Man's Freedom Fighter"!!
Take any BOOK on CLASS UNREST and read it, then you'll understand Nepal's Scenario from different perspective!!

I am totally against VIOLENCE METHOD, both by REBEL or GOVERNMENT!! Violence cannot solve anything.....

If you Bring Democracy/Change via GUNS you have to DEFEND it VIA GUNS and you'll be BROUGHT down by GUNs......example: China/Iran/N Korea/Afghanistan/Iraq/Kosovo/Central American Banana Republics/ other South American Countries!!

Only Non-Violence can bring Permanent Peace: Gandhi(India), Mandela(SA), Dr. King (US Civil Right Movement)

lahure kancha....
i am glad we are basically on the same side....
although i don' think i will ever forgive maoist for the lives they have taken, i understand they have become as important of a political party than any others, so a unified govt for now before an election has become necessary.....
i barely post or reply to threads on sajha...but this time i felt we general public have had enough of maoist thinking of "my way or the highway" "join us or be killed or beaten" attitude...
all we want is peace and for maoist to use peace and care as their weapon rather than violence...i know it is not the easiest way because other parties are a bunch of dickheads too...but somebody has to step up and be an example...

i am glad that most of us sajha users including you and me feel the same way....
dalal, i hope you understand all we want is peace....and violence is not the only solution..

im outta here....
jai nepal

Sathi haru lai mero anurodh kurai nubijhi maoist ko dalal banna nakhoju.